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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Ngl I don’t really like seeing equalized speed matchups being added

Only problem is damn near every match up equalizes it
 
Yeah I was thinking about that whole Gaara thing earlier, but it seems like it has got it right 😏

Now, I've got another one for you, it's about DMS Kakashi. Kakashi should have Kamui Blade ability in his profile because in databook, it says Kakashi can apply Kamui to his Susanoo's weapon, and his Susanoo has a blue sword too 😎😎😎😎😎😎
 
How would/should we scale the Claw Grimes based on what we've seen?

Is this another Urashiki moment, where they're generally inconsistent (as some got restrained and knocked around by Shikadai and Chocho [Chocho even goes on to call them easy], and then others get defeated by Sarada, and then one gets knocked away [but survives] a kick from base Kawaki)

from like 8-A to High 7-A all the way to 6-C
 
Nierre said:
How would/should we scale the Claw Grimes based on what we've seen?

Is this another Urashiki moment, where they're generally inconsistent (as some got restrained and knocked around by Shikadai and Chocho [Chocho even goes on to call them easy], and then others get defeated by Sarada, and then one gets knocked away [but survives] a kick from base Kawaki)

from like 8-A to High 7-A all the way to 6-C
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There is nothing inconsistent as they survived a hit from Base Kawaki, and Base Kawaki is 7-B (6-C if your sandbox content is accepted)
 
MadaraZKX said:
There is nothing inconsistent as it survived a hit from Base Kawaki, and Base Kawaki is 7-B (6-C if your sandbox content is accepted)
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Right, if my sanbox accepted then it'd be 6-C.

But it was still restrained by Shika who's Shadow Jutsu is High 7-A, and Chocho even called them easy

Unless the plan'll be to give them timeskip keys then IDK
ssgengar said:
Nah not anymore
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What do they scale to now then?
 
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Nierre said:
How would/should we scale the Claw Grimes based on what we've seen?

Is this another Urashiki moment, where they're generally inconsistent (as some got restrained and knocked around by Shikadai and Chocho [Chocho even goes on to call them easy], and then others get defeated by Sarada, and then one gets knocked away [but survives] a kick from base Kawaki)

from like 8-A to High 7-A all the way to 6-C
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They all should be sub ChoCho level.
With the kawaki stuff being an outlier.

They should be fine enough for the baseline jonin tier though imo
 
Nierre said:
Right, if my sanbox accepted then it'd be 6-C.

But it was still restrained by Shika who's Shadow Jutsu is High 7-A, and Chocho even called them easy

Unless the plan'll be to give them timeskip keys then IDK

What do they scale to now then?
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unquantifiably higher than 600 something Zettatons for Jigen, Isshiki, and BM Nard for now I believe.
 
Nierre said:
Right, if my sanbox accepted then it'd be 6-C.

But it was still restrained by Shika who's Shadow Jutsu is High 7-A, and Chocho even called them easy
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He's High 7-A, but in part 1 only, that just means Shikadai got stronger in part 2.
 
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MadaraZKX said:
But the Shadow Jutsu is High 7-A in part 1 only, that just means Shikadai got stronger in part 2. Huh
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That would mean that kawaki's base was stagnant during the time skip while team 10 grew multiple times stronger than before.

Best thing to do for now is to consider it an outlier.
Who knows if the grimes have some low level regeneration that allowed it to keep fighting after getting kicked
 
/shrug

could be anything since we dont got much information to go off of based on these two chapters.

just wanted to hear what yall thoughts
 
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Rasengan Barrage is more than a 2x amp

Just a continuation of my last CRT. The databook states that when two Rasengan with inverse rotations clash together, their power more than doubles. I'd think this is as straightforward as upgrades come, but apparently not. Basically the argument against it is that this is a physics based DC...
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This thread hella died despite being pretty important imo.
 
In regards to the Claw Grime Kawaki kicked, it’s possible it was “already” superior to the others, allowing it to awaken Rinnegan after seeing Kawaki.

Even then, where do we even scale Base Karma Users? 🤔
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Pull up for your boi 🙏 (Sorry Sparkle :devilish:)
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Very nice, but I wanna point out a couple of the big disagreements I have:
  • Minato's Rasengan scaling to a partial Bijuudama should at least scale it above 7T Kurama's physicals, and you debunked the argument you used to say he can't scale anywhere near Kurama at the end
  • Noooooo not the Ay~Minato meta 😭 Minato~KCM2 for life. Especially if you say Minato>Hashirama in speed, that makes Ay faster than him as well, despite being relative/inferior to KCM Naruto, while Hashirama's above BSM Naruto overall. Obv he doesn't need to be as fast as Naruto to be stronger than him, but if he's slower than KCM Naruto, it's very sus that he'd even be able to keep up with BSM Naruto, letalone tag him.
  • Minato also spent all night holding down Kurama inside Kushina before Obito attacked
  • Base Hashi ain't that guy, EMS Madara slams him
  • Minato CAN teleport everything in direct and indirect contact with him, but he can selectively choose what to teleport. When he teleported him and Kushina, he was touching a tree, but he didn't teleport it with them. When Obito wrapped in chains, Minato teleporting out didn't bring them with him. When he teleported Kurama, Gamabunta didn't come with him. When he teleported the Juubidama, Bee didn't go too. When Juubito was grabbing Naruto and Sasuke's faces, he didn't come when Minato saved them. It's very consistent that Minato can pick and choose targets to BFR, so it's very probable that Minato could tap the Wood Golem or something and separate it from Hashirama.
 
@MinatoSparkle @UchihaSlayer96
My take on the Kurama situation in the one shot is simple.

1.) Minato reinforcing the seal is what prevented Kushina from going full nine-tails. This is even before she used Chains. So the seal Minato used has no bearing on the fact that Kurama in that scenario was still as strong as only the 7 Tails of Power, and Kurama still had control over the form, which is why he attacked Minato.

2.) Kushina's Chains usually don't suppress Chakra but being as this is the inner world and battle of chakra, it could be argued that Kushina's Chain's here were representative of her chakra attempting to suppress Kurama's Chakra (As Minato's Projecting himself and using Rasengan is Representative of his Chakra trying to suppress Kurama's Chakra, even though we know "Rasengan" doesn't suppress Chakra). In this One Shot, we see that even though she IS using them, Kurama still overpowers her easily, showing us that "At this point in time", Kushina isn't capable of restraining 7 Tails of Kurama's Chakra. AT BEST Minato's Seal + Kushina's Chains here is enough to Prevent Kurama from going past 7 Tails (And again, this is because Kishimoto show's us Kushina isn't capable of restraining this level of Kurama's power with him overpowering her.

3.) Kurama's Chakra isn't suppressed until Minato projects himself into her inner world and Clashes his Rasengan with the TBB. Note that the TBB, Rasengan and Chains are actually irrelevant. These visages are just representations of their chakra, so the TBB being "Incomplete" is irrelevant because Kurama as shown there is still as strong as 7 of his tails power, which is the amount of Chakra that has leaked out.

Minato is pulling "Double Duty" in the One Shot. His seal is preventing more of Kurama's Chakra from leaking out past 7-Tails and his Projected Chakra is suppressing what HAS leaked out. Kushina is basically irrelevant in the situation as she's shown to be overpowered by Kurama in that scenario. So his chakra strength should definitely scale to 7-Tails no questions asked.

That said, I agree with the overall premise. I think only BM Minato can beat Base Hashirama.
 
TFO said:
@MinatoSparkle @UchihaSlayer96
My take on the Kurama situation in the one shot is simple.

1.) Minato reinforcing the seal is what prevented Kushina from going full nine-tails. This is even before she used Chains. So the seal Minato used has no bearing on the fact that Kurama in that scenario was still as strong as only the 7 Tails of Power, and Kurama still had control over the form, which is why he attacked Minato.

2.) Kushina's Chains usually don't suppress Chakra but being as this is the inner world and battle of chakra, it could be argued that Kushina's Chain's here were representative of her chakra attempting to suppress Kurama's Chakra (As Minato's Projecting himself and using Rasengan is Representative of his Chakra trying to suppress Kurama's Chakra, even though we know "Rasengan" doesn't suppress Chakra). In this One Shot, we see that even though she IS using them, Kurama still overpowers her easily, showing us that "At this point in time", Kushina isn't capable of restraining 7 Tails of Kurama's Chakra. AT BEST Minato's Seal + Kushina's Chains here is enough to Prevent Kurama from going past 7 Tails (And again, this is because Kishimoto show's us Kushina isn't capable of restraining this level of Kurama's power with him overpowering her.

3.) Kurama's Chakra isn't suppressed until Minato projects himself into her inner world and Clashes his Rasengan with the TBB. Note that the TBB, Rasengan and Chains are actually irrelevant. These visages are just representations of their chakra, so the TBB being "Incomplete" is irrelevant because Kurama as shown there is still as strong as 7 of his tails power, which is the amount of Chakra that has leaked out.

Minato is pulling "Double Duty" in the One Shot. His seal is preventing more of Kurama's Chakra from leaking out past 7-Tails and his Projected Chakra is suppressing what HAS leaked out. Kushina is basically irrelevant in the situation as she's shown to be overpowered by Kurama in that scenario. So his chakra strength should definitely scale to 7-Tails no questions asked.
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W explanation, I mostly agree but I will say that most people miss that Kushina does seem to eventually grow to 9 tails (or 8 tails and a really thick right leg).
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TFO said:
That said, I agree with the overall premise. I think only BM Minato can beat Base Hashirama.
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Eh I think SM Minato has a good chance if he can maintain it.
 
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