TheGreatJedi13
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Currently there is a new profile https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yan_Sen_(Manhua)#Abilities
Upon checking the crt
There is some serious issue with this.
Firstly while DDM agreed with the Zarathustra. He also said he is not knowledgable in tier 1.
Damage commented and agreed in the middle with the blog but not with the profile and even then after his agreement the profile was changed multiple times. If you read the conversation afterwards his comment
And lastly Zarathustra although he agreed with the tier he himself claimed he doesn't agree wholeheartedly which should have called for more evaluation for tier 1 expert.
So the thread not only got accepted with 2 staff vote it also has some unsure voting from someone knowledgeable in the series notably Zarathustra.
Therefore I'm making this CRT to call for more evaluation while also putting my own evaluation regarding the scans and such
This explanation page will be relevant here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Quintessence_PE/Cultivator_Against_Hero_Society
Now lets begin
Firstly the first Key rating uses the same argument as the 2nd key low 1-C rating.
and these are the scans for it
Now the universe being platelets within him would qualify for 2-B or higher this would pretty much qualify as this is blatant but why is this low 1-C is something odd. so we're moving to the next scans
Now the bigger one would be how he was able to manipulate the entire universe to appear as a plane and where he twisted Henry as well.
There are two possible interpretation for this since this is a visual interpretation.
1. He only twisted and appeared larger on the spatial part of the universe
2. The flat plane was the entire universe including the time within it.
Now i would lean more on 2nd option here due to the fact that similar scans of universe were used to argue universes and multiverse in size and since each platelet of him is basically infinite universe in size that pretty much makes it more logical to assume each universe has separate spacetime rather than under one spacetime.
This would indeed qualify him as 4D and being able to make it appear like 2 dimensional is indeed for me sufficient for low 1-C rating. although whats weird about this is that it is called 4th dimensional world. which kinda doesn't make sense if we are to rate it as low 1-C it might be a contradiction but atm im leaning more to the 2nd interpretation as for the reason i listed above regarding blood platelets etc.
Thus i believe the Low 1-C rating is valid
Firstly we see Henry making a 12 dimensional space to lock someone out
Currently this is vague and assuming that the small sphere he is holding is 12 dimensional and somehow it exist as being contained on whatever universe they are within would be a contradiction as this should normally be impossible.
So we check the explanation page
Which doesn't have anything further than the same scan.
so what we have left is this scan that is given to me in discord and i found in the past CRT
Now this does not explain the higher dimension at all only that they exist.
So we'll list down possible ways this vague higher dimension can qualify
Fully sized - the 12 dimension isn't shown as fully sized and as i said it was even contained within the universe where Henry used it to seal the woman which then the woman somehow manage to interact while sealed within it. If this is truly 12 dimensional it would require extensive feat for the communication to even pass through. which acts more as a counter argument than an argument that qualifies the woman to have 12 dimensional Telepathy.
Ontological difference - There isn't much explanation regarding the ontological difference of higher dimension compared to the lower one. only that they exist. although we got confirmation on how the 4th dimension works assuming this is true to all higher dimension would be a stretch to say the least specially how the 4th dimension on itself wasn't explained pretty much in detail. other than it views the universe as flat and Henry can be twisted within it before he actually breaks through it and escape.
R>F transcendence - Yan Sen cannot qualify for this because he also exist in the same narrative he has full plot control thus therefore he is disqualified to gain higher rating from this and even if he does qualify this only applies to the fully sized dimension he resides in being superior to it
Upon checking the crt
There is some serious issue with this.
Firstly while DDM agreed with the Zarathustra. He also said he is not knowledgable in tier 1.
Damage commented and agreed in the middle with the blog but not with the profile and even then after his agreement the profile was changed multiple times. If you read the conversation afterwards his comment
And lastly Zarathustra although he agreed with the tier he himself claimed he doesn't agree wholeheartedly which should have called for more evaluation for tier 1 expert.
So the thread not only got accepted with 2 staff vote it also has some unsure voting from someone knowledgeable in the series notably Zarathustra.
Therefore I'm making this CRT to call for more evaluation while also putting my own evaluation regarding the scans and such
This explanation page will be relevant here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Quintessence_PE/Cultivator_Against_Hero_Society
Now lets begin
Firstly the first Key rating uses the same argument as the 2nd key low 1-C rating.
and these are the scans for it
Now the universe being platelets within him would qualify for 2-B or higher this would pretty much qualify as this is blatant but why is this low 1-C is something odd. so we're moving to the next scans
Now the bigger one would be how he was able to manipulate the entire universe to appear as a plane and where he twisted Henry as well.
There are two possible interpretation for this since this is a visual interpretation.
1. He only twisted and appeared larger on the spatial part of the universe
2. The flat plane was the entire universe including the time within it.
Now i would lean more on 2nd option here due to the fact that similar scans of universe were used to argue universes and multiverse in size and since each platelet of him is basically infinite universe in size that pretty much makes it more logical to assume each universe has separate spacetime rather than under one spacetime.
This would indeed qualify him as 4D and being able to make it appear like 2 dimensional is indeed for me sufficient for low 1-C rating. although whats weird about this is that it is called 4th dimensional world. which kinda doesn't make sense if we are to rate it as low 1-C it might be a contradiction but atm im leaning more to the 2nd interpretation as for the reason i listed above regarding blood platelets etc.
Thus i believe the Low 1-C rating is valid
1-B
now this one I'm not fully agreeing as a valid rating for multiple reasons.Firstly we see Henry making a 12 dimensional space to lock someone out
Currently this is vague and assuming that the small sphere he is holding is 12 dimensional and somehow it exist as being contained on whatever universe they are within would be a contradiction as this should normally be impossible.
So we check the explanation page
Which doesn't have anything further than the same scan.
so what we have left is this scan that is given to me in discord and i found in the past CRT
![image.png](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1081406095165247568/1081406266804555796/image.png)
Now this does not explain the higher dimension at all only that they exist.
So we'll list down possible ways this vague higher dimension can qualify
Fully sized - the 12 dimension isn't shown as fully sized and as i said it was even contained within the universe where Henry used it to seal the woman which then the woman somehow manage to interact while sealed within it. If this is truly 12 dimensional it would require extensive feat for the communication to even pass through. which acts more as a counter argument than an argument that qualifies the woman to have 12 dimensional Telepathy.
Hence, a higher-dimensional entity can be both stronger or weaker than a lower-dimensional one, and thus, they are usually quantified based on their own feats, instead of dimensionality alone. If a character is merely stated to be higher-dimensional and simultaneously has no other feats to derive anything noteworthy from, then they are put at Unknown, and the same applies to lower dimensions as well.
Ontological difference - There isn't much explanation regarding the ontological difference of higher dimension compared to the lower one. only that they exist. although we got confirmation on how the 4th dimension works assuming this is true to all higher dimension would be a stretch to say the least specially how the 4th dimension on itself wasn't explained pretty much in detail. other than it views the universe as flat and Henry can be twisted within it before he actually breaks through it and escape.
R>F transcendence - Yan Sen cannot qualify for this because he also exist in the same narrative he has full plot control thus therefore he is disqualified to gain higher rating from this and even if he does qualify this only applies to the fully sized dimension he resides in being superior to it
Ref. Reality Fiction transcendence pageHowever, this is not the case for every setting. In certain situations, we would not grant a R>F Transcendence to those who exist in the 'real world' compared to the game. Whether we do or not, it has to do with the perspective of the story.