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Cell is an android, something as a virus won’t kill himSo where will this apply? We still take this right?
• Saiyans Canon
• Frieza might as well be King Cold?
• Cell
• Moro
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Cell is an android, something as a virus won’t kill himSo where will this apply? We still take this right?
• Saiyans Canon
• Frieza might as well be King Cold?
• Cell
• Moro
I’ll look myselfHe's not. Shortly before Cell Max is released Gohan mentions that it's hard to see without his glasses and Piccolo then asks if Super Saiyan improves his eyesight. That's what he is thinking of.
Now does Super Saiyan improve eyesight? It cuts to Cell Max releasing so we never get the answer but since Piccolo brings it up it seems pretty likely that's what the writers want us to think. Maybe the manga will have Gohan answer the question instead of cutting away immediately.
Sounds about rightSo where will this apply? We still take this right?
• Saiyans Canon
• Frieza might as well be King Cold?
• Cell
• Moro
He’s a biological android not mechanical.Cell is an android, something as a virus won’t kill him
He is a bio android, i guess half blooded saiyans could get a "possibly" resistanceCell is an android, something as a virus won’t kill him
Goku Black would also. Also probably characters in Heroes and XenoVerse. And Cell Jrs.So where will this apply? We still take this right?
• Saiyans Canon
• Frieza might as well be King Cold?
• Cell
• Moro
And Toei need specific permission from Toriyama and needed Toriyama to look over their stuff which is the main reasons Toriyama was burnt out at points and wanted to be completely done with db after end of Z the only reason super is back due to db evolution and the db games is not a similar comparison as they don’t have to ask Toriyama for permission like toei didToryama came up with desings yes, but the story of it he didn't, he didn't wrotte the garlic jr saga, none of the toei canon movies, and not gt, just like how his words mean little to dbh, it would also mean little to toei, as he is not the one that makes the anime and all of its original ideas and plotpoints, just like how he is not the one who makes the games and whatever else, he is autority to the original manga continuity
If Freeza gets it then Cold should as well, they have the same mutations so their biology is likely the same. I did see arguments for Hybrid Saiyans getting it as well.So where will this apply? We still take this right?
• Saiyans Canon
• Frieza might as well be King Cold?
• Cell
• Moro
How much did he acctually "revised"? Give detailsAnd Toei need specific permission from Toriyama and needed Toriyama to look over their stuff which is the main reasons Toriyama was burnt out at points and wanted to be completely done with db after end of Z the only reason super is back due to db evolution and the db games is not a similar comparison as they don’t have to ask Toriyama for permission like toei did
He has the DNA of Goku, Vegeta, King Cold and Frieza if I'm not mistaken. Only Piccolo's DNA is vulnerableHe is a bio android, i guess half blooded saiyans could get a "possibly" resistance
<Literally said he thought that's how it happened and that's why he had him appear in the manga in the first placeHe didn't said that it was how it happened, he said he liked it as a explanation, again the visuals do not contradict minus
his regeneration and nature itself would just make it ineffectiveHe’s a biological android not mechanical.
Oh actually should Merged Zamasu get it? Not sure how useful it would be with his Immortality and Regen but he is half-Black.Goku Black would also. Also probably characters in Heroes and XenoVerse. And Cell Jrs.
Don't forget Frost too and also Universe 6 Saiyans?If Freeza gets it then Cold should as well, they have the same mutations so their biology is likely the same. I did see arguments for Hybrid Saiyans getting it as well.
Idk about them tbhDon't forget Frost too and also Universe 6 Saiyans?
Goku Black technically took on saiyan physiology?Goku Black would also. Also probably characters in Heroes and XenoVerse. And Cell Jrs.
That's actually hard to say. I can't bring up scans right now but there are numerous statements saying Frost is a similar lifeform to Freeza rather than the same, they usually aren't even called the same species for some reason and we know the U6 Saiyans evolved completely differently from the U7 Saiyans so their biology might be completely different.Don't forget Frost too and also Universe 6 Saiyans?
Since it's about Universe 7 it might be hard to scale itDon't forget Frost too and also Universe 6 Saiyans?
Well we are doing this based on species and physiology alone aren't we? why wouldn't they?Idk about them tbh
He is a combination of them all, his biology is mostly different from any saiyan or freeza's race thoHe has the DNA of Goku, Vegeta, King Cold and Frieza if I'm not mistaken. Only Piccolo's DNA is vulnerable
I'd say to leave Frost and the U6 Saiyans be for now.Since it's about Universe 7 it might be hard to scale it
He literally has Goku's body lol.Goku Black technically took on saiyan physiology?
Can you help me to do King Cold justification? I'll call you on the wall in a minuteThat's actually hard to say. I can't bring up scans right now but there are numerous statements saying Frost is a similar lifeform to Freeza rather than the same, they usually aren't even called the same species for some reason and we know the U6 Saiyans evolved completely differently from the U7 Saiyans so their biology might be completely different.
I'm about to write a list ...Vegito and Gogeta obviously
I’m not sure what you’re asking here but if you’re asking me for his authority on toei in general Toei wanted Toriyama to write a new series and Toriyama said no and it ended with dbz KaiHow much did he acctually "revised"? Give details
He is a combination of them all, his biology is mostly different from any saiyan or freeza's race tho
Hence the "likely" ratingI know that, but like ⅘ his physiology has something holding up the Extinction Bomb
Various characters including fusion! Gotenks, Goten, Trunks, child trunks, all Saiyan characters from Universe 6, Vegetto, Gogeta, BrolySo where will this apply? We still take this right?
• Saiyans Canon
• Frieza might as well be King Cold?
• Cell
• Moro
I'll be taking a break for half an hour. I don't know to what extent you need me but maybe this will suffice?Can you help me to do King Cold justification? I'll call you on the wall in a minute
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not going to make a list for Heroes characters but I'm allowing anyone to apply to their profile maybe after my draft is listed in the canon saiyans profileI'm about to write a list ...
Add the toeiverse charactersCorrect me if I'm wrong, I'm not going to make a list for Heroes characters but I'm allowing anyone to apply to their profile maybe after my draft is listed in the canon saiyans profile
• Son Goku (Dragon Ball)
• Son Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
• Son Goku (DBS Anime)
• Son Goku (DBS Manga)
• Vegeta (Dragon Ball Z)
• Vegeta (DBS Anime)
• Vegeta (DBS Manga)
• Broly (Dragon Ball Super)
• Son Gohan (Dragon Ball Z)
• Son Gohan (Dragon Ball Super)
• Future Trunks
• Vegito (Main Canon)
• Gogeta (Dragon Ball Super)
• Future Gohan
• Goten
• Trunks
• Gotenks
• King Vegeta (Canon)
• Paragus (Canon)
• Nappa
• Raditz
• Frieza (Original Manga)
• Frieza (DBS Manga)
• King Cold
• Moro
The proposal in the op is for main continuity and not toeiAdd the toeiverse characters
Alright I'll sum this up and keep it short, thanks for helping me"Freeza is what you might call a mutated life-form. Strictly speaking, Freeza’s father is a mutant with an abnormally high battle power. And, born from his father alone, still in strong possession of the mutant traits, was Freeza. Accordingly, even saying “Freeza’s race”, these two are the only ones who possess an abnormal [level of] battle power and cruelty."
The specific phrase I am looking at is "And, born from his father alone, still in strong possession of the mutant traits, was Freeza." Which I feel justifies them sharing the same mutation and biological resistances, such as to disease
Then why are we discussing the frost demons And Moro etc?The proposal in the op is for main continuity and not toei
It's right, broCorrect me if I'm wrong, I'm not going to make a list for Heroes characters but I'm allowing anyone to apply to their profile maybe after my draft is listed in the canon saiyans profile
• Son Goku (Dragon Ball)
• Son Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
• Son Goku (DBS Anime)
• Son Goku (DBS Manga)
• Vegeta (Dragon Ball Z)
• Vegeta (DBS Anime)
• Vegeta (DBS Manga)
• Broly (Dragon Ball Super)
• Son Gohan (Dragon Ball Z)
• Son Gohan (Dragon Ball Super)
• Future Trunks
• Vegito (Main Canon)
• Gogeta (Dragon Ball Super)
• Future Gohan
• Goten
• Trunks
• Gotenks
• King Vegeta (Canon)
• Paragus (Canon)
• Nappa
• Raditz
• Frieza (Original Manga)
• Frieza (DBS Manga)
• King Cold
• Moro
Then why are we discussing the frost demons And Moro etc?
There is legitimately no reason this shouldn’t apply to toeiverse considering toriyamas statement
but if we’re not gonna talk about toeiverse then there should be a crt entirely focusing on the frost demons and Moro and etc.
Because they were part of it as well?Then why are we discussing the frost demons And Moro etc?
Statement made in context of the main continuityThere is legitimately no reason this shouldn’t apply to toeiverse considering toriyamas statement
Not the same boatbut if we’re not gonna talk about toeiverse then there should be a crt entirely focusing on the frost demons and Moro and etc.