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The calcs
Note: It's already been discussed that Ryu does not scale to the island's destruction. The explosion Ryu tanked did not cause the destruction of the island, the island's destruction was caused directly by Akuma, correlation =/= causation.
AP / Dura scaling
In Street Fighter Alpha 2, Ryu survives a massive explosion caused by Akuma, he takes no damage from it and the feat is worth 1.171 tons of tnt (barely Building level+)
The characters that would scale directly to this value are the following:
Notable characters that would downscale the rating are the following:
Everyone else in the verse scales to those who downscale, or scale to those who scale to those who downscale (e.g. Balrog ~>~ Chun-Li ~=~ Karin = Sakura)
Low tier rating proposal
Obviously the characters that scale directly to Ryu would get the full 1.171 tons of tnt rating, whereas I want to propose three different possible tiers for the characters that downscale
Speed upgrade
In the Final Fight games, characters can briefly outrun bullets at 63 m/s (Subsonic travel speed), they can punch faster than bullets at Mach 1.04 (Transonic combat speed), they can hit faster than crossbow bolts at Mach 1.9 (Supersonic combat speed), and, most impressively, Rolento can move faster than his own explosions at Mach 3.82 (Supersonic+ travel speed and combat speed)
Rolento gets an overall Supersonic+ rating speed due to not only running faster than explosions, but also being able to attack while running (meaning he has similar combat / reaction speed to his travel speed)
The main rating for the FF cast would be, "Subsonic travel speed (Can outrun bullets to a limited degree), with Supersonic+ combat and reaction speed (Can fight against Rolento, can punch faster than bullets, can hit faster than crossbow bolts)"
Notable characters that would directly scale to the Final Fight cast are the following:
Summary
Agree: DarkDragonMedeus, SamanPatou, Rau, Lonkitt
Disagree:
Note: It's already been discussed that Ryu does not scale to the island's destruction. The explosion Ryu tanked did not cause the destruction of the island, the island's destruction was caused directly by Akuma, correlation =/= causation.
The characters that would scale directly to this value are the following:
Ken Masters, he is a consistent rival for RyuSagat, he is a consistent rival for RyuAlex, he defeated a Shadaloo recreation of SFA Ryu
E. Honda, he has spared with Ryu on at least two occasionsC. Viper, she was acknowledged as powerful by RyuSakura, she briefly fought with Ryu in SFV and impressed him; she is portrayed as somewhat on par with him
Since the feat is on the verge of Building level+, characters that downscale only get to baseline Building level+ (1.125 tons of tnt)Since the feat is on the verge of Building level+, characters that downscale only get to baseline Building level (.25 tons of tnt)Since the current low-mid tier characters scale to .1 tons of tnt, they should upscale into baseline Small Building level+ (.1275 tons of tnt)
Speed upgrade
In the Final Fight games, characters can briefly outrun bullets at 63 m/s (Subsonic travel speed), they can punch faster than bullets at Mach 1.04 (Transonic combat speed), they can hit faster than crossbow bolts at Mach 1.9 (Supersonic combat speed), and, most impressively, Rolento can move faster than his own explosions at Mach 3.82 (Supersonic+ travel speed and combat speed)
Rolento gets an overall Supersonic+ rating speed due to not only running faster than explosions, but also being able to attack while running (meaning he has similar combat / reaction speed to his travel speed)
The main rating for the FF cast would be, "Subsonic travel speed (Can outrun bullets to a limited degree), with Supersonic+ combat and reaction speed (Can fight against Rolento, can punch faster than bullets, can hit faster than crossbow bolts)"
Notable characters that would directly scale to the Final Fight cast are the following:
- Zangief, he is the rival to Haggar
- E. Honda, he has fought Mad Gear gang members like Sodom, who should be comparable to Rolento
- Gunloc, he can wrestle against characters like prime Haggar
- Biff Slamkovich, he can wrestle with a prime Haggar
- Birdie, as a former CWA wrestler and former rival / partner of Titanic Tim, he should scale to Haggar
Summary
Ryu, Ken, Sagat, and Alex all go from 9-A to 8-C+All 9-As are upgraded to one of the three tiers mentioned above (baseline 8-C+, baseline 8-C, baseline 9-A+)- All "Subsonic+" characters are upgraded to "Subsonic travel speed with Supersonic+ combat / reaction speed" (with the Transonic and Supersonic feats being used as support)
- Rolento gets overall Supersonic+ speed
Agree: DarkDragonMedeus, SamanPatou, Rau, Lonkitt
Disagree:
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