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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

Xearsay said:
Well that’s sketchy as hell. You’re telling me some random person gave you “evidence” but didn’t want the evidence shared? Also the accusation that person made being that they harass across “multiple platforms” doesn’t even make any sense because the only place the two Transcendings are active besides VSBW and Discord, is Quora. And after running through their profiles, I can’t find a single instance of them harassing people on Quora. I digress, there’s definitely something off because the only reason I can think of for why someone wouldn’t want to share evidence is because the evidence is weak and doesn’t actually support what they claim.
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First of all, let me be specific. They didn't tell me, they told Deagonx, and Deagonx shared it with me, Antvasima, AKM_Sama, Firestorm, and Mr._Bambu. Also, I didn't see the specific scans of them actively commiting harassment, but a simple detail that they are infamous for having shady intentions and harass anyone who tries to "Leak their dark secrets".

I have asked in the DM if I was still not allowed to share it. But I asked if I was able to quote the conversation word for word but keep his Discord name anonymous. I will post based on what Deagon responds with.
 
Xearsay said:
Ok then we can wait for their response. However I’m still confused, why is some offsite drama being used to warrant a permaban in the first place? When Deagonx literally harassed Michael Julius who has an account here, Deagonx wasn’t banned because it was “offsite.” However the two transcendings might be perma’d for potentially harassing people offsite? You do see the double standard right?
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Apologize for the unnecessary interruption, but there have been cases where heckling members of the forum/wiki off-site can be punishable on-site.
I've seen this happen before, it is a thing, and it can warrant a severe punishment.
Not listing any specific cases as to not go off topic or stir more drama.
 
Kindly refrain from telling the staff who to pick or not pick for the purposes of our recruitment drives.

And even more kindly, stop replying to the goddamn thread if you've got no relevant information. @Bobsican @Aachintya31 @1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void

In fact, this goes for everybody. I've seen this behavior repeated enough times. I'm going to start handing out warnings if anyone continues it, regardless of who they are.
 
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DarkDragonMedeus said:
First of all, let me be specific. They didn't tell me, they told Deagonx, and Deagonx shared it with me, Antvasima, AKM_Sama, Firestorm, and Mr._Bambu. Also, I didn't see the specific scans of them actively commiting harassment, but a simple detail that they are infamous for having shady intentions and harass anyone who tries to "Leak their dark secrets".

I have asked in the DM if I was still not allowed to share it. But I asked if I was able to quote the conversation word for word but keep his Discord name anonymous. I will post based on what Deagon responds with.
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You can simply hide the name in the screenshot using any photoshop program or editor, this way you are protecting his privacy to be able to share the evidences.

I assume the context matters more than who is the one who is sharing but obviously if those evidences are verifiable or trusted.
 
Eseseso said:
I'd like to report ChardeeL (not sure if he has a profile on this site as well), for doing multiple troll edits like making Dracule Mihawk and Shanks Tier 0 and Kaido a tier 10 character, all of which I have reversed.

Check out his contributions page to see what I mean.
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Seems like a blatant troll/Vandal. I will block them.
 
ImmortalDread said:
You can simply hide the name in the screenshot using any photoshop program or editor, this way you are protecting his privacy to be able to share the evidences.

I assume the context matters more than who is the one who is sharing but obviously if those evidences are verifiable or trusted.
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Oh yeah, that actually was a good point. But anyway.
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Eseseso said:
That's weird.

But I found another troll who I added in my above post who made Acnologia and Gray tier 0 before I reversed it.

God, 3 trolls in like a half-hour.
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That was a response to a different topic, the one regarding Transcending and Beyond_Transcending and was a response to Dread and Xearsay.

But anyway, I blocked the other vandal too.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Oh yeah, that actually was a good point. But anyway.
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Thats it? So I was right, this was the reason being used.

Just to give context, B_T only made like one post of people talking shit about him where he publicized one of the screenshots. Here is a link to the Quora post. All that was said in the post was “TDK HATERS BE LIKE” followed by a laughing emoji and a screenshot of a person in the same community talking shit.

Now that we have the context, how does any of this fall under harassment? All they did was call people who were hating on them “haters” which makes sense because the people in the screenshot were hating on them. So where’s the harassment?

It’s honestly bizarre to me that someone actually tried to paint this as harassment, and even more bizarre that you think this warrants a punishment such as a permaban.
 
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People in this group were jumping ship from servers that the Transcendings were in and creating new ones for the specific purpose of avoiding them. Despite that, they managed to keep getting spies into these discord servers to get them screenshots, which the two of them would then make public Quora posts about to start drama.

That is obviously harassment.
 
Can I formally request this whole topic to be continued in private, or if transparency is a concern, its own thread? I get the concern regarding the justification of the ban, which is why I dont request people to just drop it entirely. But this whole topic has now consumed an entire page and has indirectly interfered with unrelated reports by continuesly pulling attention away from them.
 
Deagonx said:
People in this group were jumping ship from servers that the Transcendings were in and creating new ones for the specific purpose of avoiding them. Despite that, they managed to keep getting spies into these discord servers to get them screenshots, which the two of them would then make public Quora posts about to start drama.

That is obviously harassment.
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How is calling people who were hating on them haters, starting drama? If anything it sounds like that group were the ones stirring up trouble or drama because they were hating on the Transcendings. And news flash speaking up against people talking bad about you, is not harassment. It’s simply defending one’s self.
 
These were private conversations they were not meant to have access to. It's extremely disturbing that you think it's not only appropriate, but justified to intentionally seek out someone's private sentiments about you, and publicize them in order to mock them and start drama as "defending oneself."

But regardless, your moral opinions are of no relevance here.
 
Deagonx said:
These were private conversations they were not meant to have access to. It's extremely disturbing that you think it's not only appropriate, but justified to intentionally seek out someone's private sentiments about you, and publicize them in order to mock them and start drama as "defending oneself."
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And its extremely disturbing that you think it’s ok for this group to hate on people in private but then try to claim they’re being harassed when they’ve gotten caught and the people they hated on start speaking up for themselves. The Transcendings did not start any drama. They rightfully called people hating on them haters. Whether that group did it in private or not doesn’t change the fact that the people hating are at fault for instigating drama, and not the two Transcendings.
 
Xearsay said:
And its extremely disturbing that you think it’s ok for this group to hate on people in private
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...Yes? Having private negative opinions about someone, and discussing them in private, is absolutely okay. Stop spamming this thread, regardless. You aren't involved in the situation, and no one asked for your opinion about it.
 
Deagonx said:
...Yes? Having private negative opinions about someone, and discussing them in private, is absolutely okay.
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No call it what it is. It was hating. And exposing someone’s hatred for you and speaking up against people within your community for hating on other people is not harassment.
 
Artorimachi_Meteoraft said:
Question have all the pages that have been vandalized Been locked?

they were all from very popular verses/characters.
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This seems like a good idea.

Also, has anybody investigated the edit histories of all of the banned troll accounts, and undone all of their vandalism?
 
I am aware of that upload, and also shared it to quite a few people. But it was agreed it didn't really show much evidence. And Blitz apparently sounds exactly like ImagineBreaker did in his YouTube video. Some people can sound different via voice acting, and it's not like a typical discord conversation where it is common place for people to talk over each other by accident. There is like a pause between each person speaking.

Plus, as AKM said, it isn't something that should be brought up every 6 months and it is best to trust Fandom about the Email Address overlap lists.
 
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HR decided that it was not their call, and instead one for the general staff, since the given users were not staff members; so even though this is a particularly sensitive issue, it is outside of their sole jurisdiction (although all of them may weigh in should they please).
 
Xearsay said:
However still, all the points I brought up about this situation haven’t been addressed by a single staff member.
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This is not a CRT. This is a staff discussion thread. No one is obligated to convince you or argue with you.

But moreover, that's not even true. All of your points were addressed in considerable detail by Medeus and Bambu.

Xearsay said:
And finally, Deagonx has done worse than literally anything the two Transcendings have done and yet he was not punished because his behavior was “offsite.”
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No, I haven't, and that's not why action wasn't taken. You lied about most of it, and what was left was mild bickering from years prior on a different site, before I was even a member here, and I proved that you had lied and left out context, and that your own behavior was far worse.

And moreover, you were directly asked multiple times to stop commenting here. You are not their VSBW lawyer and this is not the place to further your petty beef with me or reiterate false accusations.
 
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DivineAura44 said:
Life if yall just discussed this privately and let the mods handle it instead of clogging the thread because of feelings:
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If the staff are willing to discuss these matters with me privately, then I have no problem with no longer arguing in this thread.
 
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