Georredannea15
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I didn't use the phrase "sees the 9 realm as non-existence" and said there was more evidence for yggdrasil than silver bubbles and gave an example of it. Don't distort what I said.
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6D Silver Bubbles
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No no, i ask you a proof about view reality as nonexistence and then you give yggdrasil as example. Where the view reality as nonexistence part?? I still waiting
I say this
And you reply me this
Georredannea15
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"The Militia world seems to be an exception." This statement is supported by the statemnt ,"overcoming the upper limits of order with physical strength" which proves that this is not a qualitative superiority.
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You again CHANGE THE TOPIC, i say where i make assumption when i give that scan, because you say i make assumption. I dont even say about the upper limits or qualitative superiority
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@Dog3352 was my initial reply to you about the whole mere presence of a Silver Bubble being thing?
Georredannea15
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There are more explanations than that. For example; seeing a sub-set/ beeing infinitely small/ tiny dewdrop that gives life to all being. Also, these statements make more sense when supported by the fact that every branch transcends space-time and all existence.
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What?? First you say
Militia world not get destroyed when luna enter it
And @Dog3352 say it because militia world is different from other world
And then you ask for proof
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No, is in that i say about subset or other thing??
i say view reality as nonexistance make you in higher reality, and you say no, then prove that
DONT CHANGE IT TO OTHER TOPIC
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Reading the evidence and thread, put me down for disagree.
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May I ask what is lacking here as proof for Qualitative Superiority to prove higher dimensionality?
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Georredannea15
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I didn't claim that there is such a thing. So I don't need to prove it
MaxLevel_King
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Again, I was asking him about "the mere presence of a Silver Bubble inhabitant being capable of destroying a Bubble World", not if the Militia World is unique. The 2nd part of his comment which is was what I replied to was referring to that, not about how the Militia World is special.
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Reality-Fiction Transcendence can be more subjective to interpretation.
I recommend writing in the OP what requirements you meet from the information page.
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I recommend writing in the OP what requirements you meet from the information page.
Reality-Fiction Transcendence
It is not uncommon in fiction for characters to view lesser realities as if they were fiction, in much the same way as a real world human would view fiction. Frequently that comes in the form of almighty author characters which can freely rewrite those lesser realities. The other way around...
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What??? Can you read your own statement?? I say "view reality as nonexistence is mean you in higher level of existance" and you say NO. And now you want say you dont claim that???
Georredannea15
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("view reality as nonexistence is mean you in higher level of existance") I never used this expression
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My good Lord, i say that, and then you refuse my statement by say NO
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i think making a staff discussion about viewing a world as nonexistence would determine the fate of this thread
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I absolutely agree...i think making a staff discussion about viewing a world as nonexistence would determine the fate of this thread
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then lets leave this thread on hold smh only if OP agrees with it
right now, everything is going back and forth
right now, everything is going back and forth
Georredannea15
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Some Administrators expressed their disagreed... Let's wait and see.
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He always disagree with anything related to maou so
Georredannea15
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Not only him. Some Administrator did not express their participation.He always disagree with anything related to maou so
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Only E12 disagree and that's not unusual at all
not express participation =/= agree or disagree.
Lol man, don't lie next time.
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How is this different from Ki or cosmos any universal energy that exists throughout the universe?
You need to prove that insignificant is being used in an existential sense and not quantitative sense.
because the easiest and most basic interpretation is that the the smaller worlds have insignificant amount of fire dew compared to the bigger worlds which have a vastly larger amount.
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If you're new to mgk thread then I will tell you one thing, that E12's disagreement is 1000% expected so no one ever surprises at all.
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He always disagree with anything related to maou so
EldemadeDityjon
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Added it in the first point of the summary.Reality-Fiction Transcendence can be more subjective to interpretation.
I recommend writing in the OP what requirements you meet from the information page.
Reality-Fiction Transcendence
It is not uncommon in fiction for characters to view lesser realities as if they were fiction, in much the same way as a real world human would view fiction. Frequently that comes in the form of almighty author characters which can freely rewrite those lesser realities. The other way around...
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To reiterate, do we meet the following requirements:
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Reality-Fiction Transcendence
It is not uncommon in fiction for characters to view lesser realities as if they were fiction, in much the same way as a real world human would view fiction. Frequently that comes in the form of almighty author characters which can freely rewrite those lesser realities. The other way around...
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- Must view the world as a some actual form of 'fiction',
- i.e. to them, what happens in the fiction is not real and of no physical consequence to their being and also otherwise is of no greater consequence to their being than an actual fictional character could reasonably be to a real life human.
- The medium in which they view the world as fiction generally does not matter.
- Potential mediums for viewing a cosmology as fiction include:
- written media (Books or stories),
- images (Paintings, comics, or movies),
- data (Simulations or video games),
- or mental constructs (thoughts or dreams).
- All of the above would be considered less 'real' than the person who views the cosmology as such, and can directly imply qualitative superiority.
- Note that the medium is usually a representation or container for the fiction on a higher plane and not necessarily the fiction in itself.
- One should ask oneself: Is it by nature of the depiction likely that nothing that happens in the 'fictional world', no matter how powerful, could affect the 'real world' due to the fictional nature of the former?
- Additionally, the showings should be reasonably clear. Vague cameos of author avatars, hints at a "player" character without further context or similar things should be disregarded.
- In such cases it simply can't be sufficiently ascertained that the world is viewed as true "fiction".
- In some cases it's not even clear if it's more than a simple nod to the audience or humorous instance of Breaking the Fourth Wall, which is not to be taken seriously.
- A character that qualifies would usually then scale to one level of infinity higher than the totality of the cosmology they transcend.
- So for example, viewing a Low 2-C to 2-A cosmology as fiction would grant Low 1-C, doing so to a 6-Dimensional Low 1-C construct would scale the character to 1-C, doing so to a 10-Dimensional High 1-C structure would be the equivalent of an 11-D High 1-C and so on.
- Depending on the details and depictions of the Reality-Fiction Transcendence, it can be more than a simple 'dimensional jump', for example because each reality-fiction "level" having been explained to contain more than one level of infinity (e.g. due to containing large higher-dimensional spaces or similar).
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- Bubble World and Silver Bubbles are compared to Existence and Non Existential level like Elizha states this kinda qualifies for some level of R > F Difference by Tiering System FAQ. This is one level of Qualitative Superiority.
- Can you elaborate on the context of this non-existent state?
- Bubble World fire dew is so less it's insignificant to Calculate and even stated as impossible. Meanwhile Calculating the Silver Bubbles Fire dew is not a problem for Silver Bubbles inhabitants. Fire Dew is Equivalent to World Reality itself. To Inhabitants of Silver Bubbles the reality (fire dew) of Bubbles Worlds is insignificant.
- Can you elaborate on its insignificance?
Georredannea15
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It just says that the silver bubbles is unimportant to the bubble worlds. True, but that doesn't mean that bubble worlds look like they don't exist to silver bubbles.
"Overcoming the upper limits of order with physical strength" Here it is already said that this superiority is physical.
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Well this is about the transcendence, for person in silver bubble world the bubble world is nonexistence compare to their existence and impossible to prove bubble world's existence
This just support the statement above, bubble are insignificance compare to silver bubble
We also have proof that silver bubble is inaccessible for bubble world, the existence of silver bubble is too strong for bubble world to endure, so bubble will just perish if put it in same level of existence with silver bubble
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I can see the merit, but what concerns did other staff bring up regarding the requirements?
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Put it simply as @Fixxed stated Bubble World fire dew is Undetectable values for Silver Sea inhabitants more like it doesn't comes under their calculation. Where they can easily calculate the fire dew of other Silver bubbles in the Silver Sea.
I mean let's say you have a 3D Box and 2D dot inside the Box you can calculate the 3D box Volume but you can't do that to 2D dot kinda thing.
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Everything12 just Disagreed without giving a reason
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Stay away from dimension comparisons, because dimensionality has nothing to do with R>F or qualitative superiority.
This is a case of quantity and not quality.
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Is there a medium used for the Silver to see the fictional world?
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