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A thread that was supposed to be published weeks ago but I'm only now finding the time for.
I guess I'll stop here for now. Now all that remains are proper stamina and/or intelligence sections for peeps who are not Koro or Craig, which isn't really difficult but tedious and time-consuming (especially because I'm not a native speaker). I'll take care of this in a few decades, I'm sure, seeing how it took me almost two years of AC changes to update Craig and Koro's sections.
P&A sections of current profiles were called out during this thread, so here are the new ones:
Summary of notable changes:
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Summary of notable changes:
Additions:Things like stealth mastery, prep, etc., that are listed in every profile, are now listed under a new tab called "general assassination skills."
Justifications are written using Class 3-E feats as outlines (after all, what they learned is also known as the "basics of assassination").
Koro's, Reaper's Craig's, and Kaede's profiles are more or less complete reworks, so I'll be a bit lazy on this and just list the old and new versions.
- Unless there is a reason to assume otherwise, like Irina's lack of acrobatic abilities (so it'll still be case-by-case for the most part, including their justifications, some with fewer listed, some with more, etc.).
Korosensei: (OLD) (NEW)
The Reaper: (OLD) (NEW)
Craig Houjou: (OLD) (NEW)
Kaede Kayano: (OLD) (NEW)
Removals:Justifications for things that were on their profiles with little or no justification. A whole bunch of justifications, really.
Equipment sections of 3-E, Koro, and Reaper and things they have access through it, is overhauled.
Fourth Wall Awareness and Toon Force for everyone.
Extrasensory perception for Karma. This makes the EP of Koro, Reaper, and Karasuma two-layered, as Karma could not perceive Reaper's bloodlust while they could.
Analytical Prediction to Karasuma. Resistance to it for Koro and Reaper.
Pressure points for Koro and Reaper.
Additional Limbs, Adhesive Manipulation, and Limited Density Manipulation for Itona.
Assuming I didn't forget anything, the rest is just P&A-wise restructured version of current profiles.Resistance to pain manipulation is removed from Karasuma, Kaede, and Koro (human key), as it is no longer considered resistance but stamina.
Removed Karasuma's resistance to social influencing since I've been told that ignoring charismatic approaches are not resistances.
The line, "and opponents with bloodlust that exceeds Nagisa's own are not affected in the slightest," from Nagisa's weaknesses section, as its simply not correct.
On Predator Mode,
Currently, Craig's profile lists Predator Mode as a pseudo-three-time stat amp, using the Karasuma's statement. As you may have noticed in the updated profile above, I don't really agree with it.
Firstly, what is Predator Mode? (God, this sounds stupid)
His NA&T section describes it better than I ever could; that is what PM exactly is, but, to dumb it down, it's a trigger for Craig to enter into a battle mode; in this mode, he can oonga boonga an entire army full of military men and slaughter middle schoolers in seconds by himself.
Karasuma called Craig three times stronger than me in his natural state; that is also how Craig has been portrayed since his introduction.
PM is just a mental limiter to his war freak nature that he gets rid of by taking off his glasses; he is just far, far more bloodthirsty in PM, which of course affects his stats similarly to how adrenaline affects ours.
As such, scaling chains for to humans should go like this:
Korosensei (The Reaper) > Craig Hojou (Predator Mode) > Craig Hojou > Tadaomi Karasuma ~ The Reaper > Gakuho Asano > Ryoma Terasaka > Karma Akabane > Nagisa Shiota and the rest of Class 3-E
And the scaling chains of tentacle life-forms look like this:
Korosensei (Tentacle Monster) > Korosensei (High-end energy beam AP) > The Reaper (With a fully charged attack) ~ Korosensei (Durability wise) > Kaede Kayano (With Tentacles) > Yanagisawa Kotaro (With Tentacles) > Itona Horibe (With Tentacles)
All good? Good, I want to insert this directly into the verse page. Here's how that looks.
Is everything still fine? Nice. Now, I really wonder just who realized this before I told you right now, but Irina is not on the list, like, at all. Because she shouldn't scale to others in AP, she has no reason to.
Her current justification says that she should be stronger than 3-E because she took out a good number of them, but, uh, not really. She did so by blitzing and knocking them out with pressure point strikes and syringes; nothing implies physical superiority; in fact, it implies the opposite; at best, she scales to their LS because she pulled down Taiga and Rio at the same time, but that's it.
What do I propose? Honestly, no idea. Her durability can stay at 9-B (see her justification above), I guess. (This, too, has an anti-feat. She slipped on some paint and died once, but I guess that can be ignored on the principle that a serious moment gets priority over a comedic one if they're 1-1).
Her AP, tho? I literally have nothing; I can't even remember any kind of feat that could give her a rating, be it Tier 9 or 10. I guess my initial proposal is to just leave it at "unknown"? If anyone has any other ideas, please do tell.
Currently, Craig's profile lists Predator Mode as a pseudo-three-time stat amp, using the Karasuma's statement. As you may have noticed in the updated profile above, I don't really agree with it.
Firstly, what is Predator Mode? (God, this sounds stupid)
His NA&T section describes it better than I ever could; that is what PM exactly is, but, to dumb it down, it's a trigger for Craig to enter into a battle mode; in this mode, he can oonga boonga an entire army full of military men and slaughter middle schoolers in seconds by himself.
Karasuma called Craig three times stronger than me in his natural state; that is also how Craig has been portrayed since his introduction.
PM is just a mental limiter to his war freak nature that he gets rid of by taking off his glasses; he is just far, far more bloodthirsty in PM, which of course affects his stats similarly to how adrenaline affects ours.
As such, scaling chains for to humans should go like this:
Korosensei (The Reaper) > Craig Hojou (Predator Mode) > Craig Hojou > Tadaomi Karasuma ~ The Reaper > Gakuho Asano > Ryoma Terasaka > Karma Akabane > Nagisa Shiota and the rest of Class 3-E
And the scaling chains of tentacle life-forms look like this:
Korosensei (Tentacle Monster) > Korosensei (High-end energy beam AP) > The Reaper (With a fully charged attack) ~ Korosensei (Durability wise) > Kaede Kayano (With Tentacles) > Yanagisawa Kotaro (With Tentacles) > Itona Horibe (With Tentacles)
All good? Good, I want to insert this directly into the verse page. Here's how that looks.
Is everything still fine? Nice. Now, I really wonder just who realized this before I told you right now, but Irina is not on the list, like, at all. Because she shouldn't scale to others in AP, she has no reason to.
Her current justification says that she should be stronger than 3-E because she took out a good number of them, but, uh, not really. She did so by blitzing and knocking them out with pressure point strikes and syringes; nothing implies physical superiority; in fact, it implies the opposite; at best, she scales to their LS because she pulled down Taiga and Rio at the same time, but that's it.
What do I propose? Honestly, no idea. Her durability can stay at 9-B (see her justification above), I guess. (This, too, has an anti-feat. She slipped on some paint and died once, but I guess that can be ignored on the principle that a serious moment gets priority over a comedic one if they're 1-1).
Her AP, tho? I literally have nothing; I can't even remember any kind of feat that could give her a rating, be it Tier 9 or 10. I guess my initial proposal is to just leave it at "unknown"? If anyone has any other ideas, please do tell.
I guess I'll stop here for now. Now all that remains are proper stamina and/or intelligence sections for peeps who are not Koro or Craig, which isn't really difficult but tedious and time-consuming (especially because I'm not a native speaker). I'll take care of this in a few decades, I'm sure, seeing how it took me almost two years of AC changes to update Craig and Koro's sections.
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