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Yeah Black Adam stops a big ass statue of his son while it's falling, and Atom Smasher manages to lift it in order to free his hands up so he can fight the the demon guy (i forgot his name)
Hmm could that yield anything good? Maybe as a supporting feat for Supes and co?
Also, could Sabbac’s weird bean fear be calculated?
 
Anyway I still felt weirdy
about Superman push the Tectonic plete(s). It's seem too high for him
to be Class Z (outlier?) and its
even from In-universe newspaper
not from WoG or Shown feats
His LS should be Class G (Casually
crush coal in to a diamond) possibly class T (He doing diamond crushing with little to no effort).
 
Anyway I still felt weirdy
about Superman push the Tectonic plete(s). It's seem too high for him
to be Class Z (outlier?) and its
even from In-universe newspaper
not from WoG or Shown feats
His LS should be Class G (Casually
crush coal in to a diamond) possibly class T (He doing diamond crushing with little to no effort).
His Class G comes from just crushing diamond, not crushing coal into diamond. And at best, that would only be "At least Class G", not "At least Class G, possibly Class T"

But yeah, I never agreed with using a random newspaper for Superman's LS
 
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Wait well my times eventually come soon. Can someone tags mods admins or ministers to approved Supes downgrade of LS one.
(And feel free to changed as I'm bad at gramma structure I can't wrote them myself).
 
It’s worth noting that Sabbac is stated as equal to Adam thanks to the Macfarlane figure

it also mentions Fate can bewitch the minds of others
The toy says this but sabbac beats Adam down in seconds in the actual movie. This could be because the crown is made of eterinuim or whatever that ***** called but u get the point.
 
Eh Adam’s able to cleanly hurt him too so they’re definitely the same tier imo, I don’t think there’s a huge gap in favour of one. Surprisingly Hawkman would backscale from this
 
Also could we calc his reactions based on how slow the lightning is? I know it’s weird because the bullets seem faster tho
Could be based off the effects of the slow motion for some reason, but he does blitz a lot of soldiers with his lightning
 
I'd just make the age 5000 years (plus a bit unneeded). I'd aslo remove Invulnerability and Deconstruction (I think that's just vaporization). I'm also unsure if Adam would be Immortal since he was sealed away (so could be a Cap in Ice situation). Social Influencing seems very unsupported as well
 
Invulnerability is the same as Shazam, who was stated to be able to be only harmed by Magic and not mortal weapons, Adam's own powers share the same source so if Shazam has it, then Adam should have it (not to mention Sivana stated in the Shazam movie only Magic can harm the likes of them and the only things that truly harm Adam in the movie are Eternium and magical beings like Sabacc and Fate).

Social Influencing comes from a moment in the comics where Teth-Adam convinces a merchant to give him what he wants with the Rock's trademark look
 
Invulnerability is the same as Shazam, who was stated to be able to be only harmed by Magic and not mortal weapons, Adam's own powers share the same source so if Shazam has it, then Adam should have it (not to mention Sivana stated in the Shazam movie only Magic can harm the likes of them and the only things that truly harm Adam in the movie are Eternium and magical beings like Sabacc and Fate).

Social Influencing comes from a moment in the comics where Teth-Adam convinces a merchant to give him what he wants with the Rock's trademark look
Eh I feel that's not good enough reasoning, Sabbac is harmed by Hawkman's Nth metal and pipes he physically forces through his chest. That and future teases feel a lil against the idea of Invulnerability (it specifically reminds me of the idea only a God can kill a God in WW) and I feel it probably shouldn't be used. The Influencing is solid but I'd note it with scans towards the comic
 
Eh I feel that's not good enough reasoning, Sabbac is harmed by Hawkman's Nth metal and pipes he physically forces through his chest. That and future teases feel a lil against the idea of Invulnerability (it specifically reminds me of the idea only a God can kill a God in WW) and I feel it probably shouldn't be used. The Influencing is solid but I'd note it with scans towards the comic
Sabacc doesn't have the same power source, demons instead of gods or literal embodiement of sins and if I recall his comics correctly, Hawkman's mace has magical properties. Adam and Shazam still have their powers from the exact same source so I don't see why one of them should miss something the other has.

Don't see the point for the God thing though
 
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Sabacc doesn't have the same power source, demons instead of gods or literal embodiement of sins and if I recall his comics correctly, Hawkman's mace has magical properties. Adam and Shazam still have their powers from the exact same source so I don't see why one of them should miss something the other has.
They don’t, but their powers clearly operate the same way. There’s also a different source for both Shazam and Adam since they draw from separate pantheons

Hawkman also just straight up decks Adam at one point physically without the mace and his clones can physically harm Sabbac with normal weapons
Don't see the point for the God thing though
I bring it up because both imply a level of invulnerability but neither seem to actually be legit, it’s likely just a “magic helps you damage someone so strong”
This could be worth rendering, but the problem is that Black Cresent thing is in the way of the center of his cape
true, idk how to get around it

also, I believe Fate telekinetically restrains someone so add that to the list of powers
 
They don’t, but their powers clearly operate the same way. There’s also a different source for both Shazam and Adam since they draw from separate pantheons

Hawkman also just straight up decks Adam at one point physically without the mace and his clones can physically harm Sabbac with normal weapons
Him being able to deck Adam is just normal physics, not harming him. It's like how Kratos can throw Baldur around but is unable to harm him due to his invulnerability. And the only instances where Adam is clearly hurt in the movie are against Fate and Sabacc and both use magical powers.
For the power source stuff, it's still different for Sabacc, especially since he has fire instead of lightning and has regeneration that no other character clearly show and summoning zombies, so not only the power sources are different, héle also has powers others don't. As for Adam and Shazam, the very origin of the powers is the same since their powers come from the exact same group of sorcerers/sorcerer with the same process.
I bring it up because both imply a level of invulnerability but neither seem to actually be legit, it’s likely just a “magic helps you damage someone so strong”
For the God stuff, nothing contradicts the statement, especially since it literally comes from a God who would know what he's talking about
Also, I believe Fate telekinetically restrains someone so add that to the list of powers
Already has telekinesis
 
Him being able to deck Adam is just normal physics, not harming him. It's like how Kratos can throw Baldur around but is unable to harm him due to his invulnerability. And the only instances where Adam is clearly hurt in the movie are against Fate and Sabacc and both use magical powers.
For the power source stuff, it's still different for Sabacc, especially since he has fire instead of lightning and has regeneration that no other character clearly show and summoning zombies, so not only the power sources are different, héle also has powers others don't. As for Adam and Shazam, the very origin of the powers is the same since their powers come from the exact same group of sorcerers/sorcerer with the same process.
1) idk he seems staggered and based off certain matchups I’d argue he isn’t immune to physical trauma. I’m also fairly certain we see Adam similarly stunned by other characters but idk

Again, I’d just wait on using it as is

2) I’d argue Sabbac does use lightning but you can take the fire as evidence they’re different. I would doubt that being evidence he wouldn’t have invulnerability by the logic you propose tho. Magic apparently can only be harmed by magic so why would Sabbac be harmed by non magical means?

Mira a whole thing and I think we should wait a bit on it
For the God stuff, nothing contradicts the statement, especially since it literally comes from a God who would know what he's talking about
My point is this implies Diana is invulnerable and is free to be abused by NLF; so we don’t use it
Already has telekinesis
Yeah didn’t noticed until it was pointed out, it’d give us a good LS via Telekinesis tho
 
1) idk he seems staggered and based off certain matchups I’d argue he isn’t immune to physical trauma. I’m also fairly certain we see Adam similarly stunned by other characters but idk

Again, I’d just wait on using it as is

2) I’d argue Sabbac does use lightning but you can take the fire as evidence they’re different. I would doubt that being evidence he wouldn’t have invulnerability by the logic you propose tho. Magic apparently can only be harmed by magic so why would Sabbac be harmed by non magical means?
I've got nothing for the pipe thing so fair enough
Mira a whole thing and I think we should wait a bit on it
At worst, it can be added later
My point is this implies Diana is invulnerable and is free to be abused by NLF; so we don’t use it
Diana is an Amazon and demigoddess, not a goddess. She is only partially divine, just enough to kill a weakened Ares but she can still be harmed by sufficiently powerful beings. As for why she was able to harm Ares if she's not a full deity, it's worth remembering she's a particular case since A) Zeus specifically created her to kill Ares so she's basically a living loophole to him, B) he was still dramatically weakened by his defeat against Zeus and C) she only kills him by redirecting his lightning with her bracelets so he was basically killed by his own power.
Yeah didn’t noticed until it was pointed out, it’d give us a good LS via Telekinesis tho
Btw, Fate seems to have a strong crystal motif, his clones appear to be made of crystalline fractals and even break down in the form of small crystals when destroyed, same for some of his forcefields and the cages he tries to emprison Adam and Sabacc in also appear to be crystal like, is it enough to give him Crystal Manipulation?
 
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