A New WWE Scaling Chain!

[RandomGuy2345]

After the new feats got approved, out first move is to make a new scaling chain of course!

Don't really got much else to say, other I'm excited to make new, fresh matchups with the verse as a whole (can't wait for the other supporters to see this).

Anyways, here's a list of the new feats:

Tazz and Bam Bam Bigelow - Hole In The Ring:

• Rounded down: 1643457.4215 x 2 x 155.08489290179 / 271.97538461538 = 1874253.57308 J + 30746.9239 (wood destruction) = 1,905,000.49698 Joules
• Rounded up: 1643457.4215 x 3 x 155.08489290179 / 271.97538461538 = 2811380.35961 J + 30746.9239 = 2,842,127.28351 Joules (ACCEPTED)

Big Show Chokeslams JBL:
1643457.4215 x 2 x 124.88149907627 / 271.97538461538 = 1509235.30639 J + 105564.47 = 1,614,799.77639 Joules

Big Show Slams The Undertaker:

• Rounded down: 1643457.4215 x 3 x 135.39695553212 / 271.97538461538 = 2454477.25057 J + 213648.498 = 2,668,125.74857 Joules
• Rounded up: 1643457.4215 x 4 x 135.39695553212 / 271.97538461538 = 3272636.33409 J + 213648.498 = 3,486,284.83209 Joules (ACCEPTED)

These are all of the new feats!

Not too sure whether or not we should use the high end or low end, but that's something we can definitely figure out!

Scaling Chain:

God Tiers: 3,486,284.83209 Joules

Top Tiers: 2,842,127.28351 Joules

High Tiers: 1,614,799.77639 Joules

Mid Tiers: 1,000,000 Joules

Low Tiers: 310.7 Kilojoules

Here's the blog to all of the calculations.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Big Show Slams The Undertaker:

• Rounded down: 1643457.4215 x 3 x 135.39695553212 / 271.97538461538 = 2454477.25057 J + 213648.498 = 2668125.74857 Joules
• Rounded up: 1643457.4215 x 4 x 135.39695553212 / 271.97538461538 = 3272636.33409 J + 213648.498 = 3486284.83209 Joules

For this one, there were roughly 3.7 steel beams in the hole, so I think using the Rounded up version is better, as rounding to the nearest tenth will give us 4.

Tazz and Bam Bam Bigelow - Hole In The Ring:

• Rounded down: 1643457.4215 x 2 x 155.08489290179 / 271.97538461538 = 1874253.57308 J + 30746.9239 (wood destruction) = 1,905,000.49698 Joules
• Rounded up: 1643457.4215 x 3 x 155.08489290179 / 271.97538461538 = 2811380.35961 J + 30746.9239 = 2,842,127.28351 Joules

In this calc, there were roughly 2.61 steel beams in the hole, so just like the previous one, the Rounded up version should work, as rounding to the nearest tenth will give us 3.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

This is totally not me trying my absolute best to get the best results possible for the verse.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Following ayy

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Anyways, I'm going to sleep now. Extremely tired.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Following.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Bumpity

Surprised this didn't get that much attention.

 

[DivineAura44]

Random never fails (except for the fact he failed to see Kachon carried the one twice.)

 

[Pikaman]

I agree with rounding to the nearest tenth (up in both of these cases)

Now, to get to the messy stuff…

which tiers are gonna scale and what of the tiers that don’t?

 

[DivineAura44]

I agree with rounding to the nearest tenth (up in both of these cases)

Now, to get to the messy stuff…

which tiers are gonna scale and what of the tiers that don’t?

I think James Ellsworth and ONLY James Ellsworth should scale.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Now, to get to the messy stuff…

which tiers are gonna scale and what of the tiers that don’t?

Top Tiers and above scale to this.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Supernatural Tiers: >3,486,284.83209 Joules

God Tiers: 3,486,284.83209 Joules

Top Tiers: 2,842,127.28351 Joules

High Tiers: 1,614,799.77639 Joules

This is just a rough draft of the scaling chain.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

The main problem is that the highest AP value other 1.6 Megajoules is that 492 KJ calc, which is significantly lower than 1.6 Megajoules (an over 3x difference).

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Then again, most, if not, all of the profiles we have for this verse are characters who are at least Top Tier, so that's not really too big of an issue.

 

[DivineAura44]

I'm still flabbergasted about the fact UW doesn't have a profile but James Ellsworth does.

 

[Bruhtelho]

I don't really care what ends are used but we should ask Therefir or have someone else which would be preferred before doing anything

The main problem is that the highest AP value other 1.6 Megajoules is that 492 KJ calc, which is significantly lower than 1.6 Megajoules (an over 3x difference).

anyone weaker then the 1.6 Megajoules could just massively downscale from it to 1 Megajoule

 

[RandomGuy2345]

anyone weaker then the 1.6 Megajoules could just massively downscale from it to 1 Megajoule

Fair.

I don't really care what ends are used but we should ask Therefir or have someone else which would be preferred before doing anything

I mean, is it really necessary? It would make sense for us to round the values to the nearest tenth. I don't see why we should wait.

 

[Bruhtelho]

I mean, is it really necessary? It would make sense for us to round the values to the nearest tenth. I don't see why we should wait.

cause it gives us conformation to use that stuff instead of just using it cause it logical. I don't really see it taking very long just to get conformation.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

cause it gives us conformation to use that stuff instead of just using it cause it logical. I don't really see it taking very long just to get conformation.

Then go ask a staff member about it.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Then go ask a staff member about it.

already asked Therefir which versions we should use, we can still continue this thread of course

Fair.

there has to be evidence for it, so for example "Mid Tier was capable of fighting a Top Tier but not to the same level then that top tier" so they'd downscale

 

[RandomGuy2345]

already asked Therefir which versions we should use, we can still continue this thread of course

You should probably give him the context behind the question, too.

there has to be evidence for it, so for example "Mid Tier was capable of fighting a Top Tier but not to the same level then that top tier" so they'd downscale

True, though determining who's Mid Tier is very hard.

 

[Bruhtelho]

True, though determining who's Mid Tier is very hard.

that still also leaves low tiers.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I mean, a mid tier doesn't need to fight a Top Tier in order to downscale from a 1.6 MJ.

Remember, High Tiers are 1.6 MJ, so a Mid Tier fighting a High Tier (which a Mid Tier is perfectly capable of doing) would make the Mid Tiers downscale to 1 MJ.

 

[Bruhtelho]

I mean, a mid tier doesn't need to fight a Top Tier in order to downscale from a 1.6 MJ.

Remember, High Tiers are 1.6 MJ, so a Mid Tier fighting a High Tier (which a Mid Tier is perfectly capable of doing) would make the Mid Tiers downscale to 1 MJ.

then what about low tiers? do they just downscale to lower then 1 MJ?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

then what about low tiers? do they just downscale to lower then 1 MJ?

I guess.

 

[Bruhtelho]

alrighty Therefir has responded to the calc and said that we should use the rounded down versions.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

alrighty Therefir has responded to the calc and said that we should use the rounded down versions.

You should've used the argument I made earlier in this thread as to why I think the rounded up versions work better.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Nah like, you deadass should've done that. He probably would've said yes to the rounded up version.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Nah like, you deadass should've done that. He probably would've said yes to the rounded up version.

be my guest.

 

[Pikaman]

You should've used the argument I made earlier in this thread as to why I think the rounded up versions work better.

CGMs like low-balls better, better to wonk feats than wank them, so I can’t really say I’m surprised

 

[RandomGuy2345]

CGMs like low-balls better, better to wonk feats than wank them, so I can’t really say I’m surprised

Don't worry. I already made a response in the blog post about it lol.

 

[Bruhtelho]

I let Therefir know you replied to the calc btw.

 

[Bruhtelho]

alrighty Therefir has responded saying "the Rounded up versions should be fine" so lets continue this upgrade though the only actual part that needs to be done is it being applied.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

alrighty Therefir has responded saying "the Rounded up versions should be fine" so lets continue this upgrade though the only actual part that needs to be done is it being applied.

Yay!

 

[Bruhtelho]

alrighty Therefir has responded saying "the Rounded up versions should be fine" so lets continue this upgrade though the only actual part that needs to be done is it being applied.

last thread Moritzva and Abstractions said "that once the calcs are accepted they should be good to go" so the upgrade is pretty uncontroversial and everything should be good to go.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

last thread Moritzva and Abstractions said "that once the calcs are accepted they should be good to go" so the upgrade is pretty uncontroversial and everything should be good to go.

We just have to apply them.

But first, we need to make a scaling chain.

Supernatural Tiers: >3,486,284.83209 Joules

God Tiers: 3,486,284.83209 Joules

Top Tiers: 2,842,127.28351 Joules

High Tiers: 1,614,799.77639 Joules

Mid Tiers: 1,000,000 Joules

Low Tiers: 310.7 Kilojoules

 

[Bruhtelho]

Supernatural Tiers: >3,486,284.83209 Joules

God Tiers: 3,486,284.83209 Joules

Top Tiers: 2,842,127.28351 Joules

High Tiers: 1,614,799.77639 Joules

Mid Tiers: 1,000,000 Joules

Low Tiers: >1,000,000 Joules

seems simple enough.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Supernatural Tiers: >3,486,284.83209 Joules

God Tiers: 3,486,284.83209 Joules

Top Tiers: 2,842,127.28351 Joules

High Tiers: 1,614,799.77639 Joules

Mid Tiers: 1,000,000 Joules

Low Tiers: >1,000,000 Joules

Does anyone else have any objections to this?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Why aren't Mid Tiers >1614,799.77639?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Why aren't Mid Tiers >1614,799.77639?

It was agreed upon that they should downscale to a Megajoule.

Also, you got the symbol wrong.