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Chaos Energy is literal Magic. Garou's Mimicry works through pseudo-science.
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"Stop copying me!!" (Metal Sonic vs Awakened Garou)
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RandomGuy2345
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This matchup in a nutshell:
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I wish we got more different abilities from awakened garou
he can definitely use stuff like telekinesis like blizzard and tornado but they didn't show him doing so, which means people here probs wont accept that
hyperspace of course being argued as non magic is also valid
this just seems like a stomp thread honestly
he can definitely use stuff like telekinesis like blizzard and tornado but they didn't show him doing so, which means people here probs wont accept that
hyperspace of course being argued as non magic is also valid
this just seems like a stomp thread honestly
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Shakkei/Modes =/= Garou harnessing the knowledge of the flow of all energies and behavior of all forces in the universe in himself.
Shakkei/Modes quite literally turns him into the person with their abilities. I see no reason why Garou wouldn't just become Metal Sonic but better.
Shakkei/Modes quite literally turns him into the person with their abilities. I see no reason why Garou wouldn't just become Metal Sonic but better.
RandomGuy2345
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Damn, so Garou gets shit on?
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ShakeResounding
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Not seeing a single thing Garou can do here when it'll just be a copy-off. Difference is Metal has hax Garou can't replicate and regen that Garou can't pass.
Are you always this untolerable?
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When people make at least 20 matches at this point with Garou and then argue saying that Garou loses when their arguments are based off of things they know nothing about, yes.
RandomGuy2345
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So is this a stomp or nah?
ShakeResounding
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You know what? Touché.
azontr
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Wait wait- So are you upset that people are arguing that Garou wins for the wrong reasons or that he loses for the wrong reasons??
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Mistype.
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Probably. Garou is fighting Garou+ essentially
azontr
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Cool homeboy.
So you gonna debate instead of ranting about people not reading OPM or...?
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Nope. I already said my point that no one refuted. "He just has their face" isn't an argument and just proves that
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Garou's Modes "borrow the power of nature by imitating the movements of living things". Afaik he could never just "turn into" someone.
azontr
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I mean, I've read OPM, read the Cosmic Garou fight a lot actually(wouldn't call myself a hardcore fan), and there's nothing indicating Garou actually becomes the person nor have you made an effort to debunk anything outside of saying "nobody knows what their talking about" or "this isn't an argument".
So really you just have no point to make. You have no point.
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I'm not sure if you're misinterpreting what I said. Garou is borrowing their abilities. Their skillset. Garou would be able to do that to Metal Sonic. I never meant that Garou literally becomes a 2 foot robot.Garou's Modes "borrow the power of nature by imitating the movements of living things". Afaik he could never just "turn into" someone.
azontr
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That's what you said, though? (Sorry if I sounded like a dickwad in my last comment)
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Dude. He gain's their abilities. It's not like he's harnessing Chaos Energy from the cosmos because that specific ability is limited to that. Shakkei is completely separate. He's copying the person, and since that person can use Chaos Energy, so would Garou.
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Modes don't grant abilities. Everytime Garou copied an ability he did so via his universal understanding and mimicry, whenever he used modes it was purely physical things, like power or basic techniques. It should be pretty obvious it doesn't copy abilities or intrinsic abilities because if it did, Garou wouldve just flat out copied Saitama's AD and other innate qualities and traits like he did his power or Saitama's own knack for learning and mimicry/adaption (Which Garou points out later when they're doing quantum body control), but he didn't, it's that very reason why he lost.
azontr
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I mean but does he really? He never copied any abilities with Shakkei. He used Shakkei to copy Saitama's strength endlessly, not to copy any abilities.
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u guys ignoring how he managed to copy portaling? that's an ability
azontr
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He didn't use Modes to copy that.
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Literally nobody is ignoring that, there's just extra context to how and why he could copy that, that is commonly left out or forgotten, which Garou himself mentions and points out in that very exact same sentence he does so.
Oliver_de_jesus
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Maybe i read bad and this has already been discussed but I wonder why everyone ignores the fact that Garou needs to see power in action and understand it, so if Metal uses Chaos Control, Garou wouldn't even be able to react, much like Marvel's Protege that he was defeated by use instant powers that are not abilities that can be physically dodged.
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Guess we found Garou's hard counter 
azontr
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Well now I feel dumb.
RandomGuy2345
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Guess we found Garou's hard counter
Vietthai96
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Most of the time people instantly using the logic that he understand the flow of cosmos thus he can copy all, and people start arguing around it, thus forgeting that he need to see the power in action.
No offend, but most of Garou match is a circlejerk around either passive Radiation or "I understand the flow of cosmos so verse equalize allow me to understand everything and copy everything"
azontr
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I mean it can't be offensive if it's the truth.
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Garou doesn't even have the best passive radiation hax in tier 4 tbh.
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