Not really. The specific number derived from safe assumptions may be from fans but the content is still from the author. Hakari dodging lightning inches from his face is not going to net numbers close to supersonic in any reality remotely close to ours and Gege chose to display that level of speed.
I'd usually agree with this but, but the manga is pretty explicit
IT being explicit doesn't really mean much given the main point being Gege not being aware of the speed scale he's already created with one character let alone the entire series. To take this statement seriously you'd have to posit it takes precedence over other on-panel feats from multiple fights, instead of the alternative that it's a low-end outlier from the author using precedence from the same work. The latter seems much more rational to me.
Well feats wise the speed calculation is better than taking author statements. We don't need to downgrade character just so author doens't know how speed tier works.
Death of the author exists, and no, that's not the case for speed given that these statements are consistently made. Stuff like "above Subsonic speed" and "Mach 3," indicating a very consistent progression.
However the feats themselves disagree with this, that's the issue. If the feats consistently disagree, i.e bullet catching, lightning stuff, etc, then yes, you can still apply death of the author for speed. A massive dissonance between statements and feats shouldn't just automatically gravitate to whichever is lower, find which is more consistent, and given the amount of potential calcs, I'm willing to bet feats might end up more consistent.
No it's pretty simple, you just use your brain and pick the one that doesn't give you the same number when you use an exponent on it, because otherwise it's not a power boost, I'm not seeing the point here.
I'm finding what's more consistent, and that's the statements. I mean, the fact that Naoya got the "above Subsonic" statement then when he came back stronger than before got the Mach 3 statement indicates such a consistent progression for Naoya himself. Saying it's just "automatically gravitating to whichever is lower" is about as disingenuous as me saying you're going with the feats because they're higher.
Let's use an actual value from the verse, then: Gojo's 7.97 kiloton feat. Let's say there's someone that scales to this feat, and then they use Black Flash. 7.97 kilotons can also be written as 7970 tons, and also as 3.334648e+13 Joules. Apply the 2.5 exponent, and you get the following:
Calculating of those said reaction and dodging won’t even reach the speed of the piercing blood. And this will consistently put those characters around transonic speed, maybe lower or a little higher
He was stated to surpass that speed then later on given a cap to his speed, that’s pretty clear
Which makes these statements consistent
Not once have I ever seen the wiki take a fan calc above an inverse statement, The only situation that happens is if there is no way the statement can be correct in any form. E.g. licht saying someone going at SOL/FTL speed will create a black hole in FF but somehow shinra goes SOL/FTL and only goes back in time, in this case this statement won’t allow us to give shinra High 3-A, simply because this is wrong and clearly a speculation on licht part who was later proven wrong in later showings. It is a case by case scenario and in this case the statements have been consistent.
Seeing as one of the calcs we do have, for Yuji of all people, ends up putting him at Hypersonic you're wrong on that one.
You're combining two statements I didn't mean to. I was talking Piercing Blood didn't put a cap on the speeds of the characters cause it's only the stated speed of the techinque.
Statements might be consistent with one another, but they aren't consistent with the feats.
You should know, seeing as you were part of this thread.
We don't actually see her "... - not react" ing to him
this is a NLF
iirc It was stated to Exceed the Speed of Sound so it was stated to be Supersonic
mb broNo it isn't what are you on?
That has nothing to do with NLF
My bad, I will like to see the calc in question, but that also brings the context of narrative
Yes, neither did it place it far above, if piercing blood was seen as a very impressive attack due to its speed
The people who performed those calculated feat got thrashed by a way lower speed, not only the fact that statement would take precedent any other feats like that becomes an outlier.
Which is exactly what I said, as woks said it is a case by case basis and what can be argued better. And he even gave this example
This is pretty blatant she was literally shocked by the fact that he has reached Mach 3, meaning the factor that caused her predicament is naoya speed.
Shocked as in how?
Which makes it even better as still means that the only reason she lost was due to naoya speed, still pretty simple.
It calls back to Naoya's Power and Speed correlation that he gets stronger as he accelerates, we know due to that speed Maki got overpowered
Generally the calcs put them in the ballpark of Hypersonic to Massively Hypersonic.
Nope the statement “naoya has reached Mach 3”
