Occam's Razor GG. The power is directly granted from the triad. It is unfounded to say that the mechanics would suddenly change.
Your argument relies on the presupposition that Vanica was using any devil power against her disciple.
You have failed to refute anything.
The mechanics are individual power + devil power , can't claim that it is linear without knowing an individual non-boosted power
Your argument relies on the presupposition that vanica was not using any devil power against her disciple
You have failed to prove anything
It's not my burden to prove the negative. Lmao at you trying to shift it.
The OP already presented its evidence. The ball is in your court to provide scans to counter.
Refuted Vanica using devil power against the disciple in Note 2 of the OP. Just added it.
yeah we need more people lol.
I’d check the verse supporter list for BC and dm those staff message walls.
What do you think, eh?
It's already stated in the series that most knights are using mana skin or reinforcement magic. Which is an ability that Asta is mimicking. No reason to assume Asta isn't using anti-mana skin, the anti-magic is invisible after he activates the form.
I'm not sure that's what it would mean. I took it as that; he doesn't have to worry about holding back and not killing them because they're already dead.
Also it's worth keeping in mind that this manga chapter was made before this anime canon episode. The reason I mention this is that Asta immediately goes into his Black Asta form after getting rid of the poison, which negates incoming magical effects (like the heat of Yultim Volcano), which leads me to believe he went into his Black Asta form specifically to counter the poison
While I understand this point, I just don’t think it holds any water. I think bringing up the dates would be more understandable if the production was something like several years a part.
Because AM negates mana, it shouldn't matter how that mana is being used since it's still mana. Anyway my problem with this is that a 50% Dark Disciple would need to be 10 times stronger than a Spade Captain which makes no damn sense and has nothing that implies that.
Because poison manipulation is how organisms are affected. The poison magic or mana would need to be strong enough to bypass Asta’s anti-mana skin. Has it’s actual effect is on living organisms. It’s AP though is above anti-mana skin.
Because it’s already accepted the devil percentages are linear here.
So basically poison potency is proportional to mana is proportional to AP?
There is actually.
My problem is not whether or not 50% devil power gives a 10 times bigger increase in power as 5% Devil power.
Using 1% Devil Power on top of your existing power would, on all accounts, be stronger than using 0% Devil Power and only using your existing power
That's not even the point. The point is that it's a tall burden to state that anti-mana skin didn't exist as a concept prior to Episode 132. Episodes take 1-2 months to animate. This doesn't include the time it took to script episodes, Tabata's team supervising the outline of the story for the anime-canon, etc. Plus the guidebook states that Tabata and his editor know what's happening far ahead in time. As he took over when the elves reincarnted but knew what was going to happen with Lumiere's reveal 50 chapters later.
I never said it took 5 months to animate an episode. I said it takes 1-2 months which pushes the two a lot closer. But scripting/conceptual edits take place long before anime production begins, which makes it possible that the writing for the material predates chapter 229. And with tabata knowing over a years worth of material in advance and sharing that with his editor gives it a high burden to claim that Tabata didn't know or plan about anti-mana skin.
A couple of weeks vs a couple of months doesn't negate the fact that their inception is far closer than 5 months. Especially when what really matters in the end is what's canon. In canon, Asta has anti-mana skin. An ability that isn't visible, with one of its uses allowing him easier travel through a strong magic region. In chapter 229, Asta travels through a strong magic region. This magic region gave him some trouble. This was a serious moment for him because he knew that spade citizens were being tortured. So it makes no sense for him to not be using anti-mana skin. Otherwise he'd be making his journey to save people slower and more arduous.
Pretty much anything is debatable. But we also know he's a Stage 0. And It's stated the lower the stage the stronger the magic. Thus applying magical potency to the spell as well.
It bypassed his anti-mana skin, so I don’t see how it wouldn’t scale to his AP. Poison manipulation is classified on the server as effecting living organisms. It bypassing anti-mana skin, a supernatural energy and never stated to be living, means it’s not just durability negation.
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What's so "lol" - this wiki is a place full of wank. No wonder people like you are the butt of jokes outside the wiki. Can't even properly reply to explain how this will affect BC, and how it compares to feats and statements (logic).
