Having every ability in a verse

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

A Character is stated to have mastered everything every rule/law behind the world, every bit of knowledge and information, and is also just straight up said to have mastered everything there is. It's later stated that everything is simply a part of his thoughts and wisdom, including space, time, energy, material, souls, and even the source of everything including power.

Would these be grounds for him to have every ability displayed within the verse?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Yes

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Yes

Neat, that's going to be fun.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Sounds suspiciously relatable to something.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Sounds suspiciously relatable to something.

Its for a cultivator novel. Low Dimensional game and its related novels.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Its for a cultivator novel. Low Dimensional game and its related novels.

Low dimensional game...?

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

nah i think he should have Omniscience since he know everything in universe

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

nah i think he should have Omniscience since he know everything in universe

I misworded what I typed my bad. When I said everything is a part of his thoughts, I meant those things and the entire Multiverse exist because he dreams them into existence including the source, which is where everything comes from and is the very concept of power everyone derives their abilities from.

I assumed that, on top of the fact he's stated to have mastered everything would be valid evidence for having every ability.

 

[Delta333]

They should have all abilities in the verse, tho it seems like they don't use them in character

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

They should have all abilities in the verse, tho it seems like they don't use them in character

Actually, that raises a question I have, how does Omniscience affect a being's character uses. Wouldn't it mean they use the most appropriate ability they have for the situation even if they don't use it in character?

 

[Bobsican]

Of course not, intelligence and personality are separate things, at least in such case where the guy in question wouldn't use the most optimal stuff regardless of omniscience.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Of course not, intelligence and personality are separate things, at least in such case where the guy in question wouldn't use the most optimal stuff regardless of omniscience.

Then what's the point of Omniscience in a vs battle? If a character doesn't make decisions based on knowing literally everything, then what do they base their decisions on?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Where does it scale?

don`t know ask the op he is the one researching the verse

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Who is space man?

the op

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

How strong?

Not finished reading the sequel, but based on the first novel he's 11-C to 1-A, and like the most straightforward 1-A Character, I've ever seen. He sees universes as canvases to paint on with even universes of Infinite Dimensions existing simply because he dreams them to be. He control's his own dimensionality so he can hop between being zero-dimensional or eleventh dimension and stuff.

 

[Bobsican]

Then what's the point of Omniscience in a vs battle? If a character doesn't make decisions based on knowing literally everything, then what do they base their decisions on?

An utility thing to lead with the most viable strategies and plausible countermeasures to opposing stuff. That's normally the case and all, but in the case you proposed where they wouldn't do that even with it... yeah.

Actually, that raises a question I have, how does Omniscience affect a being's character uses. Wouldn't it mean they use the most appropriate ability they have for the situation even if they don't use it in character?

Intelligence and what a character wills are separate things, one could know everything yet simply not take the most optimal actions anyways, at least with the case you're proposing, feats as usual are valuable to see how good can a character do with information in such contexts if anything.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Intelligence and what a character wills are separate things, one could know everything yet simply not take the most optimal actions anyways, at least with the case you're proposing, feats as usual are valuable to see how good can a character do with information in such contexts if anything.

So it's a situation of they technically could fight optimally due to omniscience, but because they haven't shown they do, they can't?

 

[Delta333]

So it's a situation of they technically could fight optimally due to omniscience, but because they haven't shown they do, they can't?

Not really, in case the fight lasts in long period and the character needs to win no matter what then they will ultimately pull the proper wincon at the end, just not the first move

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Any reason for 1-A?
(You don't need to see scans just curious)

I- I just told you? R>F of seeing entire structures that are High 1-B as canvases and dreams.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Oh ok.

(Thats Kinda L1-A)

I thought Low 1-A was for when transcendence is vague.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Nope if its way to vague it's still h1b.

Well, now I'm just confused. If you don't get 1-A for seeing the entirety of a High 1-B structure with R > F difference then a lot of profiles need to be changed.

 

[Delta333]

I thought Low 1-A was for when transcendence is vague.

No Low 1-A is for uncountable infinite dimensions, not because the feats are vague or anything

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

No Low 1-A is for uncountable infinite dimensions, not because the feats are vague or anything

Oh the reasoning was changed, I didn't notice.

It used to say: Alternatively, this tier can also be assigned to characters who transcend '''High 1-B''' structures when no further context regarding the nature of such transcendence is given.

 

[Arceus0x]

Its for a cultivator novel.

why am i not surprised?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

why am i not surprised?

I mean technically it's Wizards, Cultivators, Alchemist and every other kind of genre crammed into one.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

That sounds like a funny (and cringy) verse.

It is, you got Saints and Priests fighting Wizards and Cultivators just chillin being Immortal.

 

[Zaratthustra]

If its Low Dimensional Game then the verse cosmology doesnt work well with the Wiki dimensionality system making it un-tierable or just unknown for tier as Ultima was made to evaluate it by a few people in the past and thats was his conclusion as it treates each higher dimension equal to a lower one even those of 2D, 1D, etc.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

If its Low Dimensional Game then the verse cosmology doesnt work well with the Wiki dimensionality system making it un-tierable or just unknown for tier as Ultima was made to evaluate it by a few people in the past and thats was his conclusion as it treates each higher dimension equal to a lower one even those of 2D, 1D, etc.

Sequel fixes that issue no worrys.

 

[Zaratthustra]

From what I know the sequels aren't translated, just Chinese.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

From what I know the sequels aren't translated, just Chinese.

Ya, I got lucky finding a site that translated the entire thing, the MTLs were horrid.

 

[Pepsiman25th]

Would these be grounds for him to have every ability displayed within the verse?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Maria_Ushiromiya?so=search#Untapped_Potential shes the only one who comes to mind