SEI seems a bit redundant imho, at least because I tend to not consider the power outside of verses where status effects exist an effective thing, but I wouldn't mind it being added.
Sense Manip is good, at least first, you need to provide scans showing that Plants caused the character's senses to be removed.
Sure thing. It's just a direct effect that Plants have after contact.
I'm not sure about this, seems more like intimidation, which falls under Social Influencing
How would that be either one? The guy couldn't move, there's the term "frozen in fear." yes but that's not what happens when scared. When scared your body shakes as a defense Mechanisms, you don't lock.
I need more context for this, specifically about the following points:
- Doesn't in every time mean it just stored its image overtime?
No, that's like literally speaking. One of the reasons why he was so damn hard to actually "kill." (Which they couldn't do either, Vash had to counter to ability with anti fusion and the range he has.
Vash was the "key." in the defeat of Knive's. This obviously wasn't meant as in "the only one strong enough.' because while he's relative, he's still vastly weaker than Ark Knives. Vash is the key because he counters basically everything Knives can do.)
- Do we have proof other versions of it can survive its death and act in its place?
Not directly since Vash was able to unfuse Knives from the Ark, Vash being the same person with Universal+ Space-Time Manipulation and power Nullification that extends to that range as well. The power of a Plant extends and reaches to the entire time axis.
Basically Vash was the walking counter to what Knives was.
- Couldn't intertwining his fate be only flowery language to express how he interacted with both humans and Plants for his own ends?
Most likely not, the statements are made several times and Midvalley isn't the type to make hyperbolic statements especially given his expertise in sensory. Non - Independent Plants which are the weakest Plants also Manipulation, create and collapse abstractions like causality by merely existing, so them Manipulating Fate isn't exactly far fetched.
Plus Knives isn't the type to really manipulate, he's a lot more direct and had little contact with humans before his attack.
- Can he regenerate himself or keep on living because of his image stored in other Plants?
Both, it's his regeneration from himself, plus the thousands of images of himself that he's stored into the Plants. Basically the issue in dealing with him was that his regeneration was stupid, and the fact that he installed his image / will into Thousands of other Plants, and in turn the time Axis which made him so hard to deal with.
Only Vash with his range and anti fusion was able to put a stop to him.
- Midvalley's statement feels more like him saying he is powerless against Knives, who's figuratively controlling his destiny.
Like I said above, the chances of this being a figurative statement is very much unlikely given the circumstances.
- Can you show me something about the bolded part?
Sure. Refer to
here or better yet I'll just drop the accepted statement.
プラントはプランク的な不確定性を統制しエネルギー、物質、次元の操作など可能だが更には因果律の崩壊や創造が可能で全ての時間軸を含めた多元的宇宙、更に高位の次元にまで及ぶ。プラントの大元と呼べるものが多元的宇宙を遥かに上の高次元そのものであり、全ての始まりそのもの。
Which translates into "The plant can control plank-like uncertainty and manipulate energy, materials, and dimensions, but it can also collapse and create
causality, extending to the multiverse including all time axes, and even higher dimensions.. What can be called the origin of the plant is the higher dimension itself far above the multiverse, and the beginning of everything itself.."
So normal Plants have already shown causality fuckery, and time axis fuckery so Type 3 and Fate Manipulation should be solid imo.
Info Manip is good but should be labelled as Information Absorption
This works.
linking both pages
Infinite stamina is good but should be showed through more scans, or at least not a cropped one.
The cropped one is really the only part of relevancy within that page, I don't really see a reason to include the entire page whenever 99% of it is meaningless. Anyway, that scan is pretty direct but if that's not enough for you Plants are currently accepted as having all types of self sustenance, they don't need to eat, sleep, or anything of the sort even when empowering massive cities for hundreds of years on end.
Boundless Knowledge doesn't seem to be a literal statement, more like a hyperbole to say how clever and cunning he is, but I don't know how to rate his intelligence just through that alone.
Yeah we've agreed on Supergenius instead.
Do we have reasons to believe that woman is referring to a higher dimension, and not just a different state of existence?
That's the Crimson Nail, basically Knives's right hand. Trigun's a verse that delves into higher D stuff quite often, ranging from this statement in the manga to the 2 other Higher D statements from WoG (The latter is accepted as 4-D hax here so her referring to a higher dimension is more consistent than her referring to a different state of existence.)
EE is good, but I'm unsure about Regen Negation. Wouldn't he just die becausue of EE? It usually bypasses all levels of physical regeneration.
Knives's has Low-Godly which covers most forms of EE. Vash's case is matter / physical EE, which Knives's can regenerate from so it's more akin to Negation than just EE since Knives's can regenerate from that level of damage.
I don't see this being Supernatural, people living a horrible life were all they friends and loved ones die around them, alongside a pletora of other bad things, is extremely common in real life, (and in fiction too) and some still find a way to push forward.
This is completely different, getting tortured physically and mentally for the majority of 150+, getting hunted, betrayed and watching loved ones / friend's get executed just because of the connection they have with you is definitely far from norm.
Vash has seen and dealt with the ugliest side of humanity for 150+, and despite all that he still manages to push on without a second of hesitation.
Same guy who can go through 8 months of torture and go through serious injury with his will alone.
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I need more details about that power that gives off and takes away.
What do you mean? Basically Plants have the ability to "negate." abilities and also "give." abilities. Vash tends to capitalize on the former, Knives abuses the latter to gain new and random ass abilities such as out of the blue Void Manipulation, Mind hax, Deconstruction, fusion, etc.
