That seems fine. Thank you.
He has not displayed anywhere near sufficient consistent versatility with futuristic technology for that rating.
So what will you rate him for his creation of a teir 1 structure than can even consume another?
He has literally used almost all Speedster powers with NSF. Idk how that isn't versatile enough
No, I mean that he invented the Negative Speed Force, and used it to it's full potential. No way this isn't super genius.
??? Who do you think is better at using speed force than Eobard Thawne? Negative Speed Force is a creation of thawne and I believe only a nigh-omniscient being such be capable of creating such to rival to Speed Force and even has potential of consuming it. Why should be be treated as Reed Richards or Brainiac who are different characters from his kind of character entirely or do all Supergenius have to be like them.
It's a Supergenius at work here for him to create something that can make him rival the speedsters at their own game and created a higher-D construct that can consume their's.
He created the Negative speed force which counts as a Supergenius feat. Who said anything about Reed Richards and this isn't even the thread. Plot convenience doesn't change the fact his known as it's creator and stop saying unquantifiably feat when it's a Supergenius feat and he created his own cosmic treadmill and his cosmic rod that channels speedforce energy and release as a destructive force.
Can you please not go "end of discussion" when you clearly aren't knowledgeble on Eobard yourself? That's essentially creating a higher dimensional reality warping force on your own, that's far better than what many supergeniuses on this website did
Negative Speed Force has been shown to grant immeasurable speed, increased strength, insane time hax, many forms of dura neg, even aging people to death. How is that not versatile enough for you?
So please tell me how to scale a character's intelligence who created a teir 1 construct.
It's a feats that's constantly stated and has been recognised since the post-crisis era and nothing contradicts that. And why should he create reality warping technology when creation of the speed force scales above such kind of feats. And is it compulsory for him to always be in lab? Is that how his kind of character is portrayed? Someone who has dedicated his life to make barry allen a living hell is the same person you wanna constantly see in a lab?
So he needs to create reality warping technologies why? When his NSF can do what he so desires for him well , which is to torture the life out of barry allen.
Pester you? Of course, the opinion of His Majesty is the only thing that can decide whether a feat is accepted or not.
I don’t see why it can’t. Assuming that a guy who manages to make a device that can bring a table to life is a genius makes sense, unless you take into consideration that afterwards, he’s shown drastically dumber. Like, can barely put a table together.
honestly, both barry and eobard should just get "at least extraordinary genius" like lex did. The former has multiple feats for it and possibly compare to super genius while the latter has a bunch of extraordinary genius feats and at least 1 supergenius feat
Check the post I did under fish. I made a compromise that's okay. Cause I won't accept his creation of NSF to be ignored.
Barry can just process all possible outcomes in an instant and says the JL tower is slow despite it can perform quintillions of calcs and shit in seconds but I agree with you above.
yeah the speed force definitively only works for eobard, but barry directly compares to batman and fused doctor alchemy, created a philosopher stone, becomes the supreme chemist in the future. Then you have all of his extraordinary genius feats, like creating 2 new elements and his speed mind
He outperforms supercomputers. That’s literally on the extraordinary genius examples.
I wasn't saying it can't, I was just surprised
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yes, mention that it's related to his electricity manipulation
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should probably get both with type 8 on the negative speed force
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pretty sure that was the first already
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just called it thunderclap
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Neutral. he is not affected by retcons so he should still have it but at the same time it def feels like a retcon
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Oh for those, then yeah. Can definitely see an at least rating.
Should I word as molecular control or alternation?
Yeah new 52 Eobard Thawne doesn't seem like our Eobard but yeah his post-crisis abilities are his now he remembers and knows everything about himself in post-crisis Era and his post-crisis counterpart has time slow,stop and acceleration.
