Becouse TK can be done through Magical means besides Ki, such as Babidi's TK, like explosion sorcery, and other Telekinetic stuff he can use.
He means that TK can be done through various means, not just regular Ki manipulation.
These just seem like the strange ass applications of ki fighters use to make techniques, like the most basic application of ki is energy blasts, but there are many different techniques not every fighter can use, so the dudes who called chiaotzu's TK a strange power probably had never seen or learnt that technique before but it's not like it's not a ki technique or anything. Also cell doesn't use magic or godly powers yet he can perform this feat, so what else is he gonna use for the TK, same with Goku, who doesn't have any special traits but can still use it.
Sorcery explosion has nothing to do with TK, but I don't recall babidi using TK and it being stated to be magic.
That doesn't mean that the TK is magic... the magic he used was for example the power of using a planets energy to attack.
Hold on. I was refering to the part where he said that not everyone can use it. Even Yamcha can use it. Obviously telekinesis can stem from different sources like Ki, experiments, Alien DNA etc
Goku got it only with MUI, and Granolah has some other bunch of powers he got from the wish.
It is Magic actually, using It right after Vegeta ask him to use his Magic proves it.
it having haxxes is not an anti feat for it being able to amp. plenty of haxxed energy systems exist in fiction Chakra from Naruto or Riatsu from Bleach or Demon Energy from DMC..... many such examples comes to mind, just because haxxes can be performed or magic being rare and exotic doesn't mean physicals can't be amped. Hell I can give you example where character literally uses a Type 1 Concept as power source/energy and amps his magic weapons through it.
Thats the point, if inconsistency exist then why chose lower feats arbitrarily over bigger ones?
Okay I read the chapter, but in this article, the wiki lists his telekinesis separate from his magic.
Well even if its exotic, its more so a exotic technique. Not a quirk neither some psychic ability.
See this from DB Wiki:
Yeah, Magic can amp stats too, but you can't shoot regular energy blasts or strenghten your body as Ki does, you can't increase or decrease your Power as Ki does, etc....
Yeah sure, but that doesn't matter anymore since it can be done with ki as well, and not only that but it scales to physicals too.
I think he meant Kiai
I know this is irrelevant, but I just wanted to point out, how TK can be done through numerous means in the franchise.
What do you think about Moro having this:
Since moro was physically massively weaker than vegeta, but was still able to overpower him, he should get a "far higher with telekinesis".
Wait, now that I think about it, 7-3 should also have a "far higher with Telekinesis" he has Moro's Magic.
That’s a shockwave attack
7-3's physicals do scale to SSB levels but yeah I guess he can get a higher with telekinesis since I don't think he scales to vegeta's physicals, btw it's more specific if you say higher with tk instead of higher with magic, since magic is so broad and also because telekinesis is the only lifting strength application of magic.
Yh I knew that. I meant that the guy was probably referring to Kiai.
Ssg goku and broly were able to wrestle each others tk.
Oh Yeah!!
They work in a similar way I'm pretty sure.
And also IIRC Gogeta kept broly in the Air using God Bind.
Yeah it's the same concept.
I will, I just forgot about this one lol. I will call some stuff.
