• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Some Random One Piece CRT

Status
Not open for further replies.
Right well I agree with the 4 times multiplier for Hyouzou, while I can see the argument for it being higher I think it would be safer to go for the minimum it could be since we don't know for certain how many he ate.

Base Hyouzou scales to Gear Second which is 1 Gigaton which makes Overdosed 4 Gigatons right?
 
Well 🤔... Luffy's gear 4th got stronger link and link or luffy’s haki got stronger but 🤷‍♂️
That's irrelevant. Oda confirmed Luffy would have gotten up and moved on his own had he received no help.

Either way, Doffy and Kata would've likely killed Luffy at that moment had he not gotten assistance during those times.

@XDragnoir - If Gear 4th is scaling to 6-C, and we already agree that Doflamingo's Awakening scales relative to Gear 4th, I don't see why not. He'd at least scale with Haki since he was shown stalling Gear 4th w/out it.
 
Has these been translated? Don't think it will help with this tho
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/514658455261544480/863165697802502144/180_3.jpghttps://cdn.**********.com/attachments/514658455261544480/863167130848985098/179_2.jpg
 
I could see Doffy getting a "higher, possibly 6C with awakening" but i will leave it to Cameron you guys


Zoro is 2Gts for that and blocking DJ, quite consistent actually.

But if you guys want a 4x that's fine also IMO.
Doflamingo is definitely justified a atleast H7A+ durability. Hody gets defeated by gear third, while doflamingo is taking multiple gear 4th punches, which ALL are way stronger than the one that took out hody.

He should have an

"At least High 7-A+, possibly 6-C" durability, and the possibly 6-C comes from the gear 4th punches

I don't know what justifies "possibly 6-C" in ap though.
 
Also, what are we doing with Cracker's non-haki stats? 3,9Gts, high-end H7A+ or something else?
 
Also, what are we doing with Cracker's non-haki stats? 3,9Gts, high-end H7A+ or something else?
Higher than Baseline High 7-A for hurting Bounceman's skin w/out Haki (both of them have no proof of using Buso), which scales higher than his base form. Should also scale above his Biscuit Soldiers.
 
Higher than Baseline High 7-A for hurting Bounceman's skin w/out Haki (both of them have no proof of using Buso), which scales higher than his base form. Should also scale above his Biscuit Soldiers.
Well, both the soldiers and BM's non-haki areas are 3,9Gts, no? And IMO, downscaling him from his Buso AP is better.
 
Well, both the soldiers and BM's non-haki areas are 3,9Gts, no? And IMO, downscaling him from his Buso AP is better.
I don't think we have anything to support higher-than-base Durability for BM Luffy. He would only logically have higher resistance to Blunt Force, and nothing else.

But then again, Base Luffy's Durability would be 3.9gt anyways, right?
 
Btw, i did say G3 shouldn't be 6C because Hody was damaged before G3 one shot him, but his profile has this:

"The Energy Steroids seem to have stimulant or revitalizing properties, allowing one to recover immediately from being wounded and use their strength to its full extent"

And i know a few of you guys don't like upscaling but it's not my fault H7A is a ridiculously small tier.
 
The Energy Steroids seem to have stimulant or revitalizing properties, allowing one to recover immediately from being wounded and use their strength to its full extent
Didn't their healing effects fail to heal Hody from a single cut from Zoro though? I remember he had to keep eating them in an attempt to stop the pain.
 
Last edited:
Btw, i did say G3 shouldn't be 6C because Hody was damaged before G3 one shot him, but his profile has this:

"The Energy Steroids seem to have stimulant or revitalizing properties, allowing one to recover immediately from being wounded and use their strength to its full extent"

And i know a few of you guys don't like upscaling but it's not my fault H7A is a ridiculously small tier.
That’s fine, Boundman logically should upscale though.
 
Didn't their healing effects fail to heal Hody from a single cut from Zoro though? I remember he had to keep eating them in an attempt to stop the pain.
Well, he did use at least two to enter Monster Point Form so there would be some recovery even if not full.

That’s fine, Boundman logically should upscale though.
I know, i am only talking about G3 here tho.
 
Well in order to get this accepted we need to prove usopp being 7-B for scaling to trebol needing to take him out with multiple explosions, as well as base hody being above usopp
 
Also who thinks Doflamingo should get a possibly 6-C AP with haki onto his awakening? Or is there no justification
 
Well, he did use at least two to enter Monster Point Form so there would be some recovery even if not full.
He could have recovered but again it took 5 for him to recover from Zoro's single cut while he had took severe internal damage from Luffy's Red hawk, I doubt he had recovered much from the energy steroids he took.
 
He could have recovered but again it took 5 for him to recover from Zoro's single cut while he had took severe internal damage from Luffy's Red hawk, I doubt he had recovered much from the energy steroids he took.
I mean, Zoro is going to be 6C since he one shot Hyouzou so Hody needing all that to fully recover is... expected, i guess.

Again, now i don't think 6C G3 is impossible, but if you guys disagree then whatever.
 
If the gap between High 7-A and 6-C for Gear 2nd Luffy its really small, i don't see reason to dismiss baseline 6-C for Gear 3rd Luffy.
 
Shouldn't Nami only have that high of an AP with her lightning alone? I think it's very misleading to imply she somehow has High 7-A physicals or heat/cold based attacks.

After all, it was proven in Wano that only her lightning had any affect on Ulti, even when she was gravely injured.

@XDragnoir - Fishman Island Zoro > Doflamingo? Doubt 👀 Is Fujitora going to be scaling as well?
 
Also who thinks Doflamingo should get a possibly 6-C AP with haki onto his awakening? Or is there no justification
Doflamingo at 6-C would only be possible with Awakening, since it was the only offensive ability capable to hold back Gear 4th Luffy.

And for Durability, i can only see him be possibly 6-C since he did take a lot of beating before getting KO'd.
 
Last edited:
Doflamingo at 6-C would only be possible with Awakening, since it was the only offensive ability capable to hold back Gear 4th Luffy.

And for Durability, i can only see him be possibly 6-C since he did take a loot of beating before getting KO'd.
To be fair, we don't know that. Doflamingo only tried physically attacking Gear 4th once on-panel, then the fight went off. It doesn't help that his only attack he tried was a kick. A Goshikito or Overheat for example could have done some actual damage (which we'll never know unless Doffy escapes prison)

For Durability, don't forget Doffy's condition was already pretty bad and he still took several named attacks and was not even crippled beyond what was shown in 781. Luffy even acknowledged that Doflamingo would be too tough for his normal Kong Gun to finish off by the end of the fight, via his flashback to Rayleigh and developing the KKG.

If Doflamingo in a relatively terrible state (Stamina-wise) could still take BM attacks w/ and w/out Haki and get right back up without suffering more than a bit of blood loss, I think his Durability should fully scale regardless.
 
Shouldn't Nami only have that high of an AP with her lightning alone? I think it's very misleading to imply she somehow has High 7-A physicals or heat/cold based attacks.

After all, it was proven in Wano that only her lightning had any affect on Ulti, even when she was gravely injured.

@XDragnoir - Fishman Island Zoro > Doflamingo? Doubt 👀 Is Fujitora going to be scaling as well?
Feats speak for themselves. Zoro logically should scale above doffy with that feat. However, I do think doffy with awakening should get a possibly 6-C
 
Feats speak for themselves. Zoro logically should scale above doffy with that feat. However, I do think doffy with awakening should get a possibly 6-C
Yes easily 🌚

if gear 3rd pre timeskip can why can't post timeskip 🌚link
Well, I just re-read bits of the thread because I was a little confused. Forgot we are scaling even higher.

If Gear 3rd is scaling >3.9gt for one-tapping Hody, shouldn't Doffy scale above that anyways? He could hurt Base Luffy w/out Haki on blunt attacks, and was clowning on Gear 3rd (though I suppose the dura of his threads would be the only thing that scales since he never actually tried to clash with Elephant Gun or Grizzly Magnum).

Edit: Unless the 3.9GT Gear 3rd is from Kata Round 2, in which case, i missed that entirely.
 
Well, I just re-read bits of the thread because I was a little confused. Forgot we are scaling even higher.

If Gear 3rd is scaling >3.9gt for one-tapping Hody, shouldn't Doffy scale above that anyways? He could hurt Base Luffy w/out Haki on blunt attacks, and was clowning on Gear 3rd (though I suppose the dura of his threads would be the only thing that scales since he never actually tried to clash with Elephant Gun or Grizzly Magnum).

Edit: Unless the 3.9GT Gear 3rd is from Kata Round 2, in which case, i missed that entirely.
No. 3.9 GT is from a x4 since hody ate another 2 pills before losing to gear third. Round 2 gear third is baseline 6-C, for matching awakening kata who is also baseline 6-C. I also do think doffy should logically scale above it since even after all the damage he took, he could still take multiple gear 4th punches regardless, for his dura and awakening without haki could stall gear 4th, so you can argue with haki he could hurt luffy.
 
Also like I said, we need to prove usopp scales to 7-B durability via taking multiple of trebols explosions, in which case then we prove base hody scales above usopp
 
For what I'm about to say, keep in mind Haki is confirmed to vary in effectiveness depending on the user's stamina, hence Doflamingo's AP/Dura w/ Haki is likely lower than it would be normally by the time we hit chapter 790, and his Flap Thread breaks Luffy's Haki after x amount of hits.

@Stefano4444 - Doffy never used his AP on Gear 3rd, but he has been able to hurt Base Luffy w/out Haki on physical strikes. Same Luffy tanked attacks from Fujitora, who could match Gear 3rd's AP.

For Doflamingo:

AP: >3.9GT (Harmed Base Luffy w/ blunt attacks, even in a weakened state), higher with Haki (His Haki infused attacks could harm Base Luffy through his own Haki protection easily)

Durability (String): >3.9GT maybe ~4.3GT (Tanked an Elephant Gun without budging, and his Awakened threads could take blows from Gear 4th Luffy)

Durability (Self): ~/>4.3GT (took hits from Gear 4th Luffy, who needed a further amp'd attack to KO him).

So basically At least High7A+ AP, possibly higher, and just straight 6-C D.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top