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Saber Alter vs Naruto Uzumaki (Kurama Mode)

naruto's AoE attacks won't reach salter because she has more range and better AP with excalibur morgan, and salter just waits until kurama avatar finishes in 8 minutes, then NP spam GG
 
Yeah, but that doesnt mean she became unskilled. And its mostly because her agi receive a rank down.
 
That only has an 8 minute time limit, and what's to say Salter doesn't just kill him before then
OP is mistaken about that weakness thing. Naruto 8 minutes limit weakness is not just his to Kurama avatar but to this entire this transformation. And beside Naruto already overcame that weakness in his second transformation to this form. it seems like to me the OP just place limit to Naruto
 
Weaknesses: In it's intial usage, his Bijū Mode supposedly lasts for only 8 minutes (Not the case anymore as this timeframe was extended throughout the war)
 
As for being faster then Salter, that didn't much help Berserker from getting Excaliblasted repeatedly until death
 
As for being faster then Salter, that didn't much help Berserker from getting Excaliblasted repeatedly until death
I’ve already said it many time in this thread but Naruto can partially transform his cloack into Kurama tails and head which bumps his dura to 6-B, why you’re comparing it to Heracles who just have 6-C Dura
 
Then why did you make this match? Saber can literally do nothing to someone with 6-B durability and the servants that can completely stomp hard.
 
A big laser is not brute force, and this Saber should be just as skilled as her other counterpart, with the only difference being rank down in Agility.
What being outskilled/outsmart by Shirou’s triple crane wing is achievements? Beside like the case with spark liner high even if her instinct react to it it’s useless if her actual body cannot react to it
 
What being outskilled/outsmart by Shirou’s triple crane wing is achievements? Beside like the case with spark liner high even if her instinct react to it it’s useless if her actual body cannot react to it
Catch the hint. I literally just said Naruto stomps in not so subtle terms...
 
Maybe Gil could be fair, but that would be a repeat of his most recent match with Minato, which ended in a near stomp in Gilgamesh's favour
 
Maybe Gil could be fair, but that would be a repeat of his most recent match with Minato, which ended in a near stomp in Gilgamesh's favour
Oof yeah Gil‘s really stomps hard.

Edit: the only maybe argument I have is Gil‘s amused by Naruto ideal and going easy on him
 
Throw a servant that can do a durability negation and the stone wall issue isn't a problem

Also any 6-C Naruto's chars that i can use? Of course without the stone wall shennanigans
 
Uhhh, those that have dura neg have death hax though. Most of them are in Assassin class, which servant cant sense normally.
 
Oof yeah Gil‘s really stomps hard.

Edit: the only maybe argument I have is Gil‘s amused by Naruto ideal and going easy on him
Well... we have seen Gil in-character and willing to kill before... and he doesn't jobber as much as people say be does in that mindset
Throw a servant that can do a durability negation and the stone wall issue isn't a problem

Also any 6-C Naruto's chars that i can use? Of course without the stone wall shennanigans
Most of the servants that neg dura stomp hard I think

Not when using Salter
 
If you change major things, like restricting powers, then just make another thread since older votes would simply be discounted, fraß wouldn't work, etc.


Regardless, at a cursury glance I don't get it.

Saber can infinitely spam a Low 6-B attack, a 6-B will eventually be whittled down by stuff like that if she keeps on hitting him.


If you restrict Kurama Avatar, then Naruto just spams a hundred to thousands clones (which he does always when given the chance, it simply can't be used as much while using an avatar), and her attack doesn't actually have that much aoe (it goes on for kilometers, but it's what, twenty meters wide at best?). The odds of her hitting him before that are null because of their distance, and he wouldn't get one-shot by a mana burst.


While in an avatar, any of Naruto's attacks could be met midway because she can spam her Excalibur more than he can Bijuudamas. He is less likely to win in avatar form...
 
Well... we have seen Gil in-character and willing to kill before... and he doesn't jobber as much as people say be does in that mindset
Yes but that’s only to ppl whom he finds boring, But ppl like Saber or Naruto who have naive ideal usually amuse him and makes him want them to entertain him
more.
 
Yes but that’s only to ppl who him finds boring, But ppl like Saber or Naruto who have naive ideal usually amuse him and makes him want them to entertain him more
He had other reasons for not murdering Saber if I recall, and I hope you don't bring up Shirou, there were so many factors for that not being Gil's normal mindset it isn't even funny
If you want, I can remake it as a part 2 where they can only use the 6c fefeatures.
I think it's better to not use Salter in a Narutoverse match...
Vlad had a durability negation and he's kinda balanced so why not using him?
Doesn't vlad like, need to be in a specific place to do that?
 
Oh and Shuten Douji had a durability negation and it doesn't invloving death hax, so pick either Vlad or Shuten for Salter replacement
 
How does their dura negation work?
Durability Negation, limited Conceptual Manipulation, and Causality Manipulation (Rather than producing stakes, his Noble Phantasm is the action of “being pierced by stakes”. Therefore these stakes can manifest as “having already pierced the foe” and “having already ended” and thus cannot be dodged and ignore durability and armor like Kavacha and Kundala. His Noble Phantasm also attacks with his Origin, the concept of impalement or "being skewered by stakes")
 
Durability Negation, limited Conceptual Manipulation, and Causality Manipulation (Rather than producing stakes, his Noble Phantasm is the action of “being pierced by stakes”. Therefore these stakes can manifest as “having already pierced the foe” and “having already ended” and thus cannot be dodged and ignore durability and armor like Kavacha and Kundala. His Noble Phantasm also attacks with his Origin, the concept of impalement or "being skewered by stakes")
Wrong person.

I was talking about Shuten Douji.
 
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