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That's not Magic in General, that's just Tonal Magic AKA the most broken shit in the verse.I'm pretty certain the concept and info hax is how magic in general works, like you manipulate concepts/info to create the effect, but all that does is create the effect, which isn't concept or info manip itself.
No, in order to maintain magic it must be constantly reality warping. Shouts are literally attacking you with concepts or just flat out changing them.I'm pretty certain the concept and info hax is how magic in general works, like you manipulate concepts/info to create the effect, but all that does is create the effect, which isn't concept or info manip itself.
The effect is the hax. Read the definition of shoutsBut we don't consider the damage itself to be done on a conceptual or informational level, not once on this wiki could I ever find evidence on that. All it does is create the effect
I know about all of that, all it does is create the effect, but the effect isn't treated as being quantum/conceptual or anything else in nature. It's not treated that way in game and I can't find one instance of us treating it that way on this wiki. The song of time is altered to create the effect, but the effect itself is just the effect.The effect is the hax. Read the definition of shouts
Through Tonal Magic such as the Thu'um, they can control and influence the underlying tones which compose the fundamental layer of reality, changing, erasing and adding to the Song of Creation itself
The Song of Creation, is the quantum hax, concept hax, info hax, sound hax and reality hax.
How is literally changing the concepts of ALL OF REALITY not a direct affect of the hax?I know about all of that, all it does is create the effect, but the effect isn't treated as being quantum/conceptual or anything else in nature. It's not treated that way in game and I can't find one instance of us treating it that way on this wiki. The song of time is altered to create the effect, but the effect itself is just the effect.
Staff of magnus actually not daedric artifacts, but that doesn't matter as if what you say about shouts is true and accepted then pretty much anything dovahkiin does one shots and sol can't really do shit.The sol fight was pretty much as close to stomp as you can get regardless of the shouts thing. Dovah won because of his tier 1 daedric artifacts. Way more broken than the shouts lol
Yeah I know that’s the how it would be without the shouts anywayStaff of magnus actually not daedric artifacts, but that doesn't matter as if what you say about shouts is true and accepted then pretty much anything dovahkiin does one shots and sol can't really do shit.
Where did you get these information from? We do consider thu'um to be a conceptual manipulation, and we do consider Alduin to be able to kill 22 Jills all at once. All of these are in their profiles. Thu'um itself is a tonal magic that manipulate the Song of Creation, which basically compromise the whole of reality. Humans, animals, trees, concepts, are all compromised of the Song of Creation. By manipulating the Song of Creation that compromise the concepts, they are capable of manipulating the concepts themselves.Also after reading another thread we apparently don't consider alduin to be 22 times baseline as we dont know if he fought all those Jill's at once or separately