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Whats now?! Inconclusive again?! I guess its inconclusive now if go by these rules
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Alien x vs Demigra
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I mean can Demigra bust the multiverse with a thought?
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Also AX would use EE above mindhax since the former is thought-based while the latter probably isn’t. So EE is more efficient. Meanwhile Demigra would have to choose between 2 equally as efficient attacks and might even consider his mindhax more efficient. And yes bloodlusted makes someone use their most efficient attacks. There’s even a thread going on about that at the moment: https://vsbattles.com/threads/bloodlust-standards.110559/
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Now that I think no, but how can they recreate AX body from nothing? They didn't have feats of recreating it from nothing from that dimension iirc
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But can erase people & souls so he can erase alien X
Also if u say he can only erase body AC didnt show any low godly reg as far as I remember
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What the Green guy is trying to say is if Demigra EE is thought based or not
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Ooh but I find its thought based cause its unlike he use energy blast or something like hakai
Also his EE is like erasing souls from "History" Which is more scarier
I will check this then
Anyway I forgot to say something
I found this on alien x Profile
"Susceptible to Energy and Life Absorption"
the question is How much & what does it do to him
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"OOC moves are allowed"
"Morals off"
That's a big oof thought. In this case Demigra's more efficient move would definitely not be mindhax.
I would think of power null or clone spam.. Maybe the latter but I'm not sure
"Morals off"
That's a big oof thought. In this case Demigra's more efficient move would definitely not be mindhax.
I would think of power null or clone spam.. Maybe the latter but I'm not sure
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Why Clones spam would be a problem if Alien x has duplication on his own?
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Because Demigra can spawn clones outside of AX's range?
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Unless Demigra sense the personalities and decides to mindhax everything instantly...
But I think making clones outside of Alien X range would be more efficient... This is complicated. Anyways I'm gonna go to sleep
But I think making clones outside of Alien X range would be more efficient... This is complicated. Anyways I'm gonna go to sleep
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Demigra would ******* EE the shit out of AX from history, that's the most overpowered move of his moveset lol
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Yeah but we don't know if the EE is thought based
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Good point indeed. At this point my vote returns to AX, since he'd still assume that there's not a dimension where the true mind of AX is, and thus, letting AX to EE him while Deimgra fails to hax him
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Nope, that was completely a made up thing, it was never a thing even here.
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AX votes returned to 7 regardless, so Grace is still on
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You’d think strategizing something like that would require more than 1 thought and how would Demigra know that he’s in danger and needs to do that to avoid getting EE’d anyways?
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Correct. Busting his body also busts the pocket dimension (for some reason).
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EE’ing souls from history does sound thought-based. Alien X does have acausality type 2 though so I’m not sure if that’s gonna work but it could work if he specifically targets the pocket dimension, but he’d probably need to ki sense for that if he even thinks about it.
Alien X is as susceptible to life- and energy absorption as anyone else without resistance. The latter might even get removed and be replaced with “his power is in his dimension so you can’t absorb nor power null him without having 2-B range” very soon. And if Demigra can’t power null or life force absorb with a thought then it’s irrelevant with or without CRT.
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Meh, nothing EE related in DB verse is thought based, so not really
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Thats why I said inconclusive
AX is clearly susceptible to energy Absorption & demigra has Infinitely more range than AX
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Lol sadly enough yeah
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I mean this can be figured out quite easily and burden of proof is on you to prove his stuff is thought-based. Because if mindhax is his only thought-based hax then nothing changes and AX wins.
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Why alien x is thought based EE ?!
Did he erase souls with thoughts?! Burden of proof on u as well
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That's because generally all of Alien x skills are thought based
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That doesnt mean EE is thought based
Thats kinda no limits fallacy without proper evidences
Its "likely" The case I know but its not definitely the case
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Oh but you see I already explained that above. The reason why Alien X’s EE is thought based is because it can’t be anything else without contradicting how he works and Kevin’s statement which is accepted.
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Alien X’s Telekinesis isn’t thought based, but still based off his Reality Warping. At least, last I checked. So not everything has to be thought-based.
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Kevin's vague Statement about blinking u say
Why thats refer to erasing not killing?! First question
Next why blinking is thought based?!
Alien x use waving hands for reality warping & fighting galactic Gladiator or whatever that celestialsapiens name was
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Basically there are 3 options: movement based, energy wave based and thought based.
Movement based gets contradicted by Bellicus and Serena being able to reality warp while existing as mere DNA or even less.
Energy wave based gets contradicted by Kevin stating it would only take a blink for Celestialsapiens to erase them. While an energy wave takes longer than a blink.
Thus the only option left is thought-based.
Movement based gets contradicted by Bellicus and Serena being able to reality warp while existing as mere DNA or even less.
Energy wave based gets contradicted by Kevin stating it would only take a blink for Celestialsapiens to erase them. While an energy wave takes longer than a blink.
Thus the only option left is thought-based.
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Waving Hand is thought based?! Cause he uses his hands a Lot if u try to remember correctly all of moves arent thought based
Also reality warping as a DNA sized ≠ EE as that same sized
So its still assumption
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Kevin says “gone” rather than “dead”.
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How can he raise his hand when he doesn’t even have a body?
EE is a subset of reality warping. Check the reality warping page.
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Gone ≠ Erased always it could mean absent , die, perished etc.
So again u are using assumption
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1. watch GG VS AX fight
2. does reality warping 100% grant u EE always?! I dont think so
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Quick reminder that the Omnitrix and Ultimatrix can regen Ben from a ton of stuff. So unless you wanna give Alien X deconstruction or thought-based spatial manipulation which completely destroys a targets body. I don’t think there are that much options left but EE. It’s also implied they were gonna use EE against Paradox.
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I dont like this thread
This is making assumption to make sure alien x would win
No offense to anyone personally with die respect
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I already explained why it is before lol
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