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Doom Eternal Revision Thread Part 4

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This has been the most painful discussion I’ve witnessed.

thank god for its conclusion.

How about the crucible hax? Does it really neg immortality type 4 or is it a form of sealing/sleep manip
Clearly y’all have never been on the MGS thread

But yeah Crucible should be Power Nullification (with the caveat the blade needs to be lodged within a target to maintain the effect)
 
Which staff?
Hell does not inflict endless soul manip on every single individual that enters it, it cant, because if it did, it'd be a paradox. It cant inflict it's full span of Soul Manip (I.E. Countless dimensions) on everyone throughout countless dimensions, it has the potency to affect every individual throughout countless dimensions. One soul each, otherwise it'd be saying "Hell can inflict it's entire full possible power that it gained from affecting countless souls over billions of years, on every single new soul it finds throughout all dimensions"

If it were actively focussing it's efforts on the Slayer i'd have no problem with it, but Hell doesn't work like that, if you enter it, it starts to corrupt your soul.
The process takes billions of years and doomguy was there for billions of years, it ******* scales.

No they said there doesn’t need to be a statement of focusing down the potency to one individual. It needs to prove that potency is being sacrificed for AOE.
 
DTG pls,you’ll lose this argument again.
Let’s not get this twisted doomguy is currently 100% 7-C, honestly he should be higher, me and mic already proved that and king lost to mic. It’s a ******* fact he doesn’t need the crucible to kill a titan and we literally see him take a point blank 7-C attack. These guys have no alternatives for the 7-C rating, they just think he stayed a 9-A after the divinity machine boost. They are stalling for reasons they don’t even know themselves. I stopped arguing because at the end of the day it doesn’t matter he’ll be 2-A in March. The soul hax isn’t subject to change and the rating is warranted. Buckle up it’s gonna be a long ride I know they are going to fight this for no reason.
 
Ehh,that’s sort of a stretch.What power is it nullifying?

It’s nullifying the Immortality unless that’s a different page
Let’s not get this twisted doomguy is currently 100% 7-C, honestly he should be higher, me and mic already proved that and king lost to mic. It’s a ******* fact he doesn’t need the crucible to kill a titan and we literally see him take a point blank 7-C attack. These guys have no alternatives for the 7-C rating, they just think he stayed a 9-A after the divinity machine boost. They are stalling for reasons they don’t even know themselves. I stopped arguing because at the end of the day it doesn’t matter he’ll be 2-A in March. The soul hax isn’t subject to change and the rating is warranted. Buckle up it’s gonna be a long ride I know they are going to fight this for no reason.
Calm down

You’ve been hostile and condescending this whole thread so I advise dropping this before someone gets tired of you

Compromise on the rating and we’ll have the 2-A Doom argument another day since you’re so confident it’ll be accepted

Until then, stop so we can actually conclude this shitshow of a thread
 
Let’s not get this twisted doomguy is currently 100% 7-C, honestly he should be higher, me and mic already proved that and king lost to mic. It’s a ******* fact he doesn’t need the crucible to kill a titan and we literally see him take a point blank 7-C attack. These guys have no alternatives for the 7-C rating, they just think he stayed a 9-A after the divinity machine boost. They are stalling for reasons they don’t even know themselves. I stopped arguing because at the end of the day it doesn’t matter he’ll be 2-A in March. The soul hax isn’t subject to change and the rating is warranted. Buckle up it’s gonna be a long ride I know they are going to fight this for no reason.
I agree with you on most points,but for now I think it’s just more productive to work towards a compromise when it comes to controversial changes like this.9-A likely 7-C is probably the best we are going to get here tbh
 
No I’m referring to the huge MGS CRT thst soon became filled with hostility

No idea where you got Slayer vs Monsoon from that
Oh god no.

The last one was probably one of the most heated revisions I’ve ever seen on the wiki.I’m surprised nobody got in trouble for the sheer shitstorm created.

Hellbeast stay away from it.Your downgrading spree needs to end here
 
Oh god no.

The last one was probably one of the most heated revisions I’ve ever seen on the wiki.I’m surprised nobody got in trouble for the sheer shitstorm created.

Hellbeast stay away from it.Your downgrading spree needs to end here
I HAVE ONLY JUST BEGUN

SOON KRATOS WILL BE 10-C FOR CHEST BUSTING

Eh hostility sure but condescending? That’s 100% non intentional
Intended or not it's not on so...
 
I HAVE ONLY JUST BEGUN

SOON KRATOS WILL BE 10-C FOR CHEST BUSTING


Intended or not it's not on so...
You monster.

We could’ve had 7-C doomguy


I am genuinely baffled on how many downgrades you have committed yourself to.You supported the metal gear downgrade when toxicity was over maximum capacity.

You have my up most respect for your horrible dedication to ruining dreams.
 
If 500 people walk into a realm and get passively corrupted, that realm cannot use the potency of 500 people on all 500 people.

Yes, the realm corrupted 500 people, but if one other person goes in afterwards, it doesn't suddenly focus the combined power of Soul Manip x500 on that one person. One person with one soul walked in, so one person with one soul gets corrupted. It's Passive, not active. No one is trying to Corrupt the Slayer, he's simply resisting the passive ability of a realm that spans a very wide area.
 
PTSD flashbacks of entire essays talking lifting strength


If 500 people walk into a realm and get passively corrupted, that realm cannot use the potency of 500 people on all 500 people.

Yes, the realm corrupted 500 people, but if one other person goes in afterwards, it doesn't suddenly focus the combined power of Soul Manip x500 on that one person. One person with one soul walked in, so one person with one soul gets corrupted. It's Passive, not active. No one is trying to Corrupt the Slayer, he's simply resisting the passive ability of a realm that spans a very wide area.
I thought AOE was how wiki measures potency for things like soul hax,mind hax,etc
 
I thought AOE was how wiki measures potency for things like soul hax,mind hax,etc
It is, but only for the one doing it. Basically if you can mindhax 500 people, then those 500 people are gonna each receive the mindhax one person would receive, but if you focused that mindhax on one person, it could reach a value of 500
 
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That makes much more sense,thanks

Anywho,back to the topic of the crucible.

Wouldn’t negating type 4 be if you killed someone and they were just unable to come back rather than forcing their body into a sleep mode/stasis?

Would the crucible be a 9-A/possibly 7-C weapon?
 
That assumes that Mindhax in general works like that, which is unfounded.
Everything about the way we scale hax is an assumption- the majority of 'verses don't really equate affecting a buncha people with power, we do cause it's the only way to scale it.
 
That doesn’t make it right, we don’t really need to scale hax in general, if we really do need to we could either use verse mechanics or whether it pierced resistance. Those lack any potential variance.
You even admit that it’s wrong, so why should we keep it?
 
That doesn’t make it right, we don’t really need to scale hax in general, if we really do need to we could either use verse mechanics or whether it pierced resistance. Those lack any potential variance.
You even admit that it’s wrong, so why should we keep it?
This isn’t the thread to talk about it lol.

Make a CRT/discussion about these things.
 
Tbh I hate to say it,but 2-A will never happen due to how ******* vague Doom lore is and how the wiki treats such vagueness.

At max,he might just become officially 7-C rather than a likely because of Doom’s weird way of delivering feats.

seriously hugo,shooting 50 caliber bullets from a machine isn’t ******* impressive at all.
 
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