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Hey Ultima, I noticed that a lot of CRTs use Characters being "aspects of the Tier 0" as justification for High 1-A+ and I was wondering
1. Why is this the case?
2. Wouldn't a Tier 0 having several different aspects contradict the idea of Divine Simplicity?
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Ultima_Reality
Ultima_Reality
Depends on what's meant by "aspect." In principle High 1-A+ would be obtained out of that in virtue of the character being the "medium" for everything the Tier 0 can produce (e.g. The Tier 0 is the dreamer and the High 1-A+ is the dream itself).

A multiplicity of aspects would really only contradict the principle of the tier if it introduced multiplicity in essence to the "interiority" of the Tier 0 itself. If the aspects in question are separate from and below the undifferentiated super-essence, that's fine.
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Hi Ultima, about Tier 0

Someone asked me if the following would be an applicable tier 0. Note that this is not a specific verse, but rather a philosophy. But just curious if this kind of thing would be a tier 0.
God is also said to be a simple substance (§47) but it is the only one necessary (§§38–9) and without a body attached (§72). Monads perceive others "with varying degrees of clarity, except for God, who perceives all monads with utter clarity". God could take any and all perspectives, knowing of both potentiality and actuality. As well as that God in all his power would know the universe from each of the infinite perspectives at the same time, and so his perspectives—his thoughts—"simply are monads". Creation is a permanent state, thus "[monads] are generated, so to speak, by continual fulgurations of the Divinity" (§47). Any perfection comes from being created while imperfection is a limitation of nature (§42). The monads are unaffected by each other, but each have a unique way of expressing themselves in the universe, in accordance with God's infinite will.
Leibniz uses his theory of Monads to support his argument that we live in the best of all possible worlds. He uses his basis of perception but not interaction among monads to explain that all monads must draw their essence from one ultimate monad. He then claims that this ultimate monad would be God because a monad is a “simple substance” and God is simplest of all substances, He cannot be broken down any further. This means that all monads perceive “with varying degrees of perception, except for God, who perceives all monads with utter clarity”. This superior perception of God then would apply in much the same way that he says a dominant monad controls our soul, all other monads associated with it would, essentially, shade themselves towards Him. With all monads being created by the ultimate monad and shading themselves in the image of this ultimate monad, he argues that it would be impossible to conceive of a more perfect world because all things in the world are created by and imitating the best possible monad.
Leibniz indicates that a world is a set of compossible things, however, that a world is a kind of collection of things that God could bring into existence. For not even God can bring into existence a world in which there is some contradiction among its members or their properties.

When Leibniz speaks of a possible world, he means a set of compossible, finite things that God could have brought into existence if he were not constrained by the goodness that is part of his nature. The actual world, on the other hand, is simply that set of finite things that is instantiated by God, because it is greatest in goodness, reality and perfection. Naturally, the fact that we are here experiencing this world—the actual world—means that there is at least one possible world. In Leibniz's view, there are an infinite number of possible worlds
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Ultima_Reality
Ultima_Reality
I'm not that knowledgeable on Leibniz' Monadology, so I can't really say for certain.

Granted, if this stuff was verbatim copy-pasted into a verse, I wouldn't give Tier 0 to it at all, no. The fact he also makes God into just "the greatest/simplest monad" further hampers thing too, I'd say.

A vote please
StrymULTRA
StrymULTRA
Hey man.

You blocked me on Discord while ignoring all the apologies I gave ya. You don't just magically backtrack and ask me to do favors so casually, as if nothing happened.
Good day. Sorry to bother but my crt has had no traction for a while and you're the only one I know knowledgeable regarding possible higher planes or dimension
So your input here would be appreciated
About H1A and H1A+

Lets say there are a 1A or low 1A concept. And there was the logic literally logic, and this logic was the most fundamental thing, more fundamental and even formed all of those concept and the rest of all of creation

There are something that can rewrite this very logic of universe. Make impossible thing possible

Are this can be H1A or H1A+? Because i read to qualify for H1A+ you must above/encompasses all possible logic/possible world
Hello Bambu, I wanted to ask. Lets assume my CRT was accepted and Rick got "Infinite 5D possibly 6D" with Prep Time, would it be possible for me to restrict his prep time to only 2-A/4D or even lower potency? Or would it only be restricted to Infinite 5D at best?
Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
No. If Rick is Low 1-C via prep time, you cannot make him 2-A via prep time instead.
ShionAH
ShionAH
I see, so we can only limit stuff if they are optional equipment right? Alr thanks

Edit: Also when someone says "dimensions" as plural is it okay to index it as 2 possibly 3?
Hi ultima is this enough for high 1A.
There is 2 higher dimensions the quality between them is qualitative superiority and then there this platonic like place that is said to truly surpass higher dimensions operating in a different higher hierarchy to begin with.
Heya Mr.Bambu! One quick question.

Is a regular human character (without any biological differences) biting his opponent considered "Bodily Weaponry" ? Here's the feat, just in case.
Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
I would say no, humans don't have particularly notable abilities to bite by default and per the letter of the page would fall outside of the ability.
Hey sorry bother you. Can you give input this?

Hey sorry bother you. Can you give input this?

Hey sorry bother you. Can you give input this?

Hi Ultima. Can High 1-A+ (first or second type) characters be stronger than each other even though they are the same type? As long as it's not character A considering character B as fiction or something like that
Rabbit2002
Rabbit2002
That's not necessary, I'm just curious about Wod's tier. Since I'm not sure if Top Tier (of course not counting God Tier like IATIA) like Triat, Bodnye, Gaia, Buddha... is enough to meet High 1-A+ or simply High 1-A
Ultima_Reality
Ultima_Reality
Good question: I have no idea, really.
Rabbit2002
Rabbit2002
Well, as I expected. Another question: is the description/scan below enough for High 1-A+? If so, what type?
So, when a being obtains all the data stored within the Initial Flame, essentially memorizing all information, they reach the requirements needed to gain Omniscience & Omnipotence. To them, the difference between infinity and finite is a change of prefix, and they can modify the world like an author of a book. They have transcended all concepts and causality, including the absolutes of probabilities.
The River of Existence was the current source of Fattrovi's power. It was a strength from divinity, linked to the Source of the Multiverse, infinite energies and information. There, data of any possibility existing in the past or the future of the Multiverse were stored, and obtaining it was equal to omniscience and omnipotence, granting one rule over the Multiverse.
All information was grasped by a certain existence, and the conditions of omniscience andomnipotence were met.
If there was a person or a being that could freely manipulate and modify that information, therewas no doubt that he could call himself the most powerful. To him, infinite energy and no energywas nothing more than a minor difference of changing the prefix to 'infinite', and when hereached that step, he could modify the world as he wished, just like the author of a book.
Transcending all causality and concepts, even the absolutes of probabilities.
They have also transcended the Multiverse and surpassed their limits, becoming refined Multiverses in their own right. This is the Realm of True Infinity, which is truly endless and boundless, surpassing incomplete logic and infinite limits, including the limit of endless ascension. Omnipotence awakened the greatest, strongest, and most inconceivable power. It is completely illogical and indescribable, and any thought about it is wrong, and any retort against it is moot.
Those were immeasurably powerful beings which surpassed their own limits and transcended the Multiverse itself-in fact,they were refined Multiverses in their own right.
The so-called ultimate was to surpass these seemingly infinite limits and achieve omniscience and omnipotence. It was a realm that was truly endless, boundless, and boundless. It was to surpass incomplete logic and prove the true infinity.
[Endless ascension was in itself a limit]
Omnipotence awakened. An omnipotence that could not possibly exist. When all the harsh conditions were met, theOmnipotence awakened in an instant that could not be measured by time.
Omnipotencewas the greatest, strongest, and most inconceivable power.
Last but not least, indescribable and illogical 'Omnipotence and Omniscience': any thought was mistaken, any retort moot.
Hey sorry bother you. Can you give input this?

Hey sorry bother you. Can you give input this?

Good morning/evening, Elizhaa
Could you please give some input here? 🙏
Can I get your input here. Small thread. really appreciate the help.
Can I get your input here. Small thread. really appreciate the help.
Can you check this out? Need this to revise a verse.

I'm messaging users who have been in previous Baldi threads to see if they can give votes in this thread another user is doing.

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