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Ar1216789
Hey, currently we're doing a Low 1-C CRT for Cookie Run. If you don't know the verse take ur chance to see it, its a fun game and very OP verse

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Cookie Run CRT: The Latest Addition to the Low 1-C Crew...?

Oh yeah. 2-A Low 1-C Upgrade The Lunar Compendium states that the World of Dreams contains a countless amount of dreams, and dreams are also stated to have no beginning or end twice, being connected to one another by The Railroad of Endless Dreams (which is also stated to be endless). Dreams...
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Ar1216789
Hey, if you've got the time, check out this thread. One more vote is needed

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Cookie Run CRT: The Latest Addition to the Low 1-C Crew...?

Oh yeah. 2-A Low 1-C Upgrade The Lunar Compendium states that the World of Dreams contains a countless amount of dreams, and dreams are also stated to have no beginning or end twice, being connected to one another by The Railroad of Endless Dreams (which is also stated to be endless). Dreams...
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Ar1216789
Hey, we need one more staff vote for this.

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Cookie Run CRT: The Latest Addition to the Low 1-C Crew...?

Oh yeah. 2-A Low 1-C Upgrade The Lunar Compendium states that the World of Dreams contains a countless amount of dreams, and dreams are also stated to have no beginning or end twice, being connected to one another by The Railroad of Endless Dreams (which is also stated to be endless). Dreams...
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Ar1216789
Hey, can you review this CRT, we need one more vote

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Cookie Run CRT: The Latest Addition to the Low 1-C Crew...?

Oh yeah. 2-A Low 1-C Upgrade The Lunar Compendium states that the World of Dreams contains a countless amount of dreams, and dreams are also stated to have no beginning or end twice, being connected to one another by The Railroad of Endless Dreams (which is also stated to be endless). Dreams...
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Ar1216789
Hello, can you review this CRT, we need one more staff vote

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Cookie Run CRT: The Latest Addition to the Low 1-C Crew...?

Oh yeah. 2-A Low 1-C Upgrade The Lunar Compendium states that the World of Dreams contains a countless amount of dreams, and dreams are also stated to have no beginning or end twice, being connected to one another by The Railroad of Endless Dreams (which is also stated to be endless). Dreams...
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Ar1216789
Hey Bambu, We've reached our conclusions for the Low 1-C Cookie Run Upgrade and require one more staff vote for it to be applied. Please take a look.

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Cookie Run CRT: The Latest Addition to the Low 1-C Crew...?

Oh yeah. 2-A Low 1-C Upgrade The Lunar Compendium states that the World of Dreams contains a countless amount of dreams, and dreams are also stated to have no beginning or end twice, being connected to one another by The Railroad of Endless Dreams (which is also stated to be endless). Dreams...
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REX9097
Hi, could you please check out this CRT?
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Ninjago: Upgrade and more Abilities

1. Dragon form key This is the strongest form of the Ninja (except for Lloyd) as it gives Ninja new capabilities and powers and I will talk about Feats, Statements and Abilities in Dragon Form: Should be upgrade to 2-C: The Ninja in Dagon from their powers are enhanced by Golden power which is...
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(I hope you answer my request 🌹)
REX9097
REX9097
Can you check this CRT? 😃
Thinnapat_butsiri
Hello Ultima I have a question as I am new to VSBW. I have a question about High1-A and High1-A Meta-meta-qualitative superiority. How does it work differently than layers, i.e. characters at High1-A level above baseline, and High1-A Meta-meta-qualitative superiority. My overall question is, how is Meta-meta-qualitative superiority different from layers and how does it work?
Thinnapat_butsiri
Hllo Phoenks I have a question as I am new to VSBW. I have a question about High1-A and High1-A Meta-meta-qualitative superiority. How does it work differently than layers, i.e. characters at High1-A level above baseline, and High1-A Meta-meta-qualitative superiority. My overall question is, how is Meta-meta-qualitative superiority different from layers and how does it work?
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Phoenks
Phoenks
Okay so. Think of it like this.

1-A is the start of qualitative superiority.

In 1-A, you can get layers by being higher up on the same system of qualities. For example, let's use a system of R>F differences.

The first R>F difference is baseline 1-A. The second one is a layer into 1-A, and so on. Each layer sees the one below as fiction.

High 1-A (Meta-Quality) is beyond this entire system of qualities. No amount of R>F above 1-A reaches it.

Now let's say that within this new High 1-A (Meta-Quality) system, there is a higher-level/layer of it which sees the baseline layer as fictional or otherwise ontologically inferior. This would be one layer into High 1-A. You could have infinite amount of these layers, and it still wouldn't reach Meta-Meta Quality, but would still be far superior to each other.

Similarly, let's now say that there's some structure of being that no amount of these ontological layers into the first Meta-Quality system can reach. This would be Meta-Meta-Quality.

You can continue these systems of meta-layering and normal layering.

You could have someone who is 30 layers into Meta-Meta-Meta-Quality, for example. And they'd be treated as being transcendent to someone who is only 29 layers into Meta-Meta-Meta-Quality.

Yet something like Meta-Meta-Meta-Meta-Quality would still be incomprehensible and unreachable relative to them.

Do you get what I mean? This system continues forever and ever.

High 1-A+ is then essentially the framework of all possible qualities and their extensions thereof.
Thinnapat_butsiri
Thinnapat_butsiri
I would like to ask one more thing, do I understand correctly that meta-meta superiority in quality is High1-A+ or am I mistaken?
Tyranno223
Hi Armor, can you please take a look at this request?

This other one too would be nice but it's less urgent. The first one might need to replace the current Low 7-B rating characters scale to depending on how research goes. The current justification is a bit shaky.
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Tyranno223
Tyranno223
"‘There upon Celebdil was a lonely window in the snow, and before it lay a narrow space, a dizzy eyrie above the mists of the world. The sun shone fiercely there, but all below was wrapped in cloud. Out he sprang, and even as I came behind, he burst into new flame. There was none to see, or perhaps in after ages songs would still be sung of the Battle of the Peak.’ Suddenly Gandalf laughed. ‘But what would they say in song? Those that looked up from afar thought that the mountain was crowned with storm. Thunder they heard, and lightning, they said, smote upon Celebdil, and leaped back broken into tongues of fire. Is not that enough? A great smoke rose about us, vapour and steam. Ice fell like rain. I threw down my enemy, and he fell from the high place and broke the mountain-side where he smote it in his ruin. Then darkness took me, and I strayed out of thought and time, and I wandered far on roads that I will not tell."

It seems to have occurred shortly after the battle restarted. There isn't a pause or anything from between the Balrog reigniting to the mention of a battle of which "songs would still be sung" ages after if people witnessed it.

3019
January
23 Gandalf pursues the Balrog to the peak of Zirakzigil.
25 He casts down the Balrog, and passes away. His body lies on the peak.

Overall, the battle went from the 23rd of January to the 25th.

The storm may or may not have lasted the entire time. I assume it did. It was at least ended with the conclusion of the fight.
"‘Naked I was sent back – for a brief time, until my task is done. And naked I lay upon the mountain-top. The tower behind was crumbled into dust, the window gone; the ruined stair was choked with burned and broken stone. I was alone, forgotten, without escape upon the hard horn of the world. There I lay staring upward, while the stars wheeled over, and each day was as long as a life-age of the earth..."
Armorchompy
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Tyranno223
Tyranno223
Thanks for the calc! Should I link it on the Calc Eval thread?

I don't think there is a direct statement, sorry. The closest thing I know of is the comparison of the Celebdil to the Silvertine in Switzerland. Sorry, on mobile.

Letter 302 compares the mountain to the Silvertine in Switzerland.

"I left the view of Jungfrau with deep regret: eternal snow, etched as
it seemed against eternal sunshine, and the Silberhorn sharp against dark blue: the Silvertine
(Celebdil) of my dreams."

The Fellowship of the Ring, LoTR Book 2, Ch 3, The Ring Goes South also has the two share a name.

[Said Gandalf,] 'We fought far under the living earth.... In that despair my enemy [the Balrog of Moria] was my only hope, and I pursued him, clutching at his heel. Thus he brought me back at last to the secret ways of Khazad-dûm: too well he knew them all. Ever up now we went, until we came to the Endless Stair.' ...

'From the lowest dungeon to the highest peak it climbed, ascending in unbroken spiral in many thousand steps, until it issued at last in Durin's Tower carved in the living rock of Zirakzigil, the pinnacle of the Silvertine.

Edit: I did find a Map legend for the Atlas and put it in the imgur. It might help a little.
Xaropadob3ta
Hello! All good? Sorry if I'm bothering you, but when you can, could you evaluate these two calculations?
Lord_Zeref_Dragneel
Hello what tier would this qualify for?Infinite↑↑↑↑↑........infinite (number of "↑" is infinite in amount using Knuth's up arrow notation) amount of 2-A realms. Is this Low 1-A? 1-A? High 1-A?
Fallen_Angelicx
Hi darth, Could you please answer this question thread? An ongoing versus thread involving this and it's getting annoying to keep track when nothing is really moving forward. Thanks in advance 🙏🏽
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About Precognition Via Seeing Time

If a person can see their attacks hitting the opponent by looking into the future ahead of time to then reenact it in the current. Does resisting fate hax give you the Q to be unaffected? What else canmake you completely unaffectd mid-combat?
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Much appreciated on that last one. I have one more. I swear this one's quick
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GrunDetails

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Dark-Carioca
Dark-Carioca
Is the pic indicating 791 px for the big metal thing important? It doesn't seem to be acknowledged in the calc since nothing's written about it.
TheAngryOrange
More like redundant. I usually set up multiple ways to do the same calc. Ended up forgetting I had begun taking a second measurement.
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