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Jin Mo-Ri vs Kharn the Betrayer

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The answer was so simple, why didn't we see it before? Just get a dude who actually respects martial arts to fight Kharn, genius! Now I pray this isn't a stomp.

Monkey Ma vs Kharn... Just, Kharn...

Jin has prior knowledge of Kharn and his patron Blood God. Speed equalized. 4-B versions. Win via death, incapacitation, or BFR.

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Discuss.
 
Just to put stuff into perspective, say Jin is around 50 yotattons give or take.

Kharn is around 21...

Thousand yottatons.
 
Ok, now I have switched to their 4-B versions.
 
Right, well Jin's SS AP is 2.47 x 10^38 tonnes of force, or possibly double that depending on whether this calc halved the final value between Hui and Han.

What's Kharn's?
 
Khârn is somewhat above baseline, but nowhere near Jin. Although he still has the durability negation
 
So they can both one-shot basically? Either Jin destroys him with a single kick/punch, or Kharn soul drains him off to Khorne.

In which case it comes down to experience, skill and technique. Pretty sure Kharn has 10,000 years of experience in non-stop fighting both humans, space marines and daemons in Khorne's realm, so he wins out in experience and skill.

Technique, I'm inclined to say Jin is better with his vast array of techniques, plus his technique mimicry can basically even out any advantages Kharn has there.

So really, I'm going to say fighting style matters. Is Kharn likely to try to simply block or tank Jin's hits or is he going to actively dodge them?
 
Yep, both can. Although i'm actually inclined to say Jin. With that kind of AP advantage, he kills even with a stray hit, while Kharn needs an actual lethal blow
 
Actually, if Kharn so much as scratches him with Gorechild, Jin's soul gets dragged off to Khorne.

Though that still means that Kharn needs to hit him with Gorechild specifically, while Jin can do anything from a shoulder charge to a punch to a kick.

Plus there's clones. Swarm tactics from all sides that will one shot if they punch makes me inclined to go for Jin here.
 
That's not how it works afaik. Kharn needs a lethal blow, the soul hax just makes sure that people die for good
 
Is it? I assumed it just absorbed their soul with a scratch.

Ok, definitely going for Jin here, despite Kharn's (probably) superior experience.
 
To quote Azzy:

"Gorechild is different. Originally, it was just a normal Chainaxe, which was broken and thrown away when Angron used it to dig himself out from underneath a collasped mountain. Kharn recovered it, had it reforged with Mica dragon teeth. Gorechild tearing through everything like tissue paper is likely due to those teeth, which almost certainly function similar to something like Genestealer claws (monomolecular edges allow cutting through any material). The soul destroying is from whatever unknown daemon seems to possess the axe now, and more acts as a "no you ******* don't" to anything that otherwise wouldn't die to a Chainaxe bisecting it. The axe itself is said to feed on carnage, so Kharn actually needs to slice people up. He can't just gently tap someone with it and soulfuck them."
 
He doesn't have reality warping. His god negs it

And his Regenerationn won't help against being reduced to paste, which is what will happen if Jin lands a single hit, let alone all Jin's clone's attacking at once.
 
I switch my vote to Jin through being a higher scale of 4-B, being more experienced, being more versatile without outside help or negated abilities, and having higher stats.
 
Jin for his massive stat advantage, clones ( Actually would Kharn negates this? I guess it can be seen as "Unfair") superior CQC skills and techniques and for Monarchs reasoning.
 
I'm voting Jin for Monarch's reasons but no, Kharn is definitely more expirienced
 
Kharn has 10,000 years of experience constantly fighting demons and space marines in the Warp/Eye of Terror

Jin has an unknown number of thousands of years experience fighting people comparable to him in the Sage Realm, while also sitting around on his ass being king of the moneky people.

So Kharn is very very likely more experienced.

And no, superior numbers isn't something Khorne would consider unfair and negate, unless you think that every time Kharn is outnumbered Khorne just erased a bunch of his enemies.
 
Ok, since now we have 4-B keys...

I dunno about the duplication part being deemed unfair or not (unlike facing many opponents, this would be Jin overwhelming him with numbers, but again I dunno), only thing I know is that Kharn is used to taking a beating from way stronger characters (I think he took an extended one from Abaddon or something, going from what was said in some other thread), so uncertain about whether he dies first or if he manages to give a good enough hit on Jin to soul-wreck.
 
Superior numbers mean more blood for Khorne so I doubt he will neg it, and for expirienced Kharn has constantly fighting demons(Who themself has constantly fighting from the beginning of time to the end of time in the warp... Because in the warp time is **** up)for the last 10K years since for servant of Khorne, you must ensure that the flow of blood is constant, and if there are no enemy for you to kill then just start to killing each other, it doesn't matter for Khorne.
 
Never, I say that was pre heresy Khârn who took a beating from Angron.

Also who the **** will use pre heresy Khârn anyway?
 
Ok, my misinterpretation. Sorry about that. Personally I vote Kharn because Kharn has fought much stronger and bigger things such as Keepers of Secrets and other Greater Daemons. I think that his skill will be the winning factor here.
 
"This is pre-heresy Kharn" - implies the Kharn being used in the thread.

"That was pre-heresy Kharn" - implies it was pre-heresy kharn who took the beating from Angron.

Some minor miscommunication there.

And no one would use pre-heresy Kharn, seeing as the only thing Kharn has over other Primarchs is the blessing
 
Although he is very calm guy in comparison to the rest of his legion, he is also really good buds with Argel Tal.
 
@Jim Well, if Kharn had the feat in his Pre-Heresy form, fairly sure that gives it even more basis for current Kharn being able to take a beating from stronger characters before going down.
 
Pre-heresy Kharn can take beating because he is Space Marine, they being desain to still function with injuries that normally will incapacitating humans.

(Although thats probably the same story with most MC in the other verses...because MC is OP)
 
But that does not justify why he lived, numerous other captains of the WE tried to calm down Angron and they were all beaten to death. That is why Kharn is so notable in this scenario he tanked the 100% power rage filled strikes of one of the strongest primarchs. And remember this is all pre heresy Kharn.

Edit: grammar
 
Jis for reason above well kharn might get one shot before he can use any ability cos of this Jin has prior knowledge of Kharn and his patron
 
His logic is fairly backwards, but if you ignore the "cos of this" you can see the reasons.
 
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