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Question about Super form AP

AgentJojoBerserk

AgentJojoBerserk

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Okay, so it says that Super forms in AP tend to very anywhere between MSS and Low Multiversal. I only ask what is the context behind this. From what I know, I've been told that this comes from non standard buffs from Positive Energy or something like that, but I kind of forgot some of the reasoning behind it. I just need conformation behind the AP range in Super forms is all.


Also, I tagged this under Shadow cuz he's the best, so ye.
 
> Non standard buffs

Headcanon like "Elise's kiss amped Sonic" Aka non sense, 2-C Super Sonic is just the full power of him with 5 feats supporting It

4-A is just lowest power and 2-C is full power, that's all
 
Theuser789 said:
> Non standard buffs
Headcanon like "Elise's kiss amped Sonic" Aka non sense, 2-C Super Sonic is just the full power of him with 5 feats supporting It

4-A is just lowest power and 2-C is full power, that's all
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Is there any context behind this at all, or no?
 
Theuser789 said:
> Non standard buffs
Headcanon like "Elise's kiss amped Sonic" Aka non sense, 2-C Super Sonic is just the full power of him with 5 feats supporting It
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That was a tiny bit rude, and a big agressive with how you worded that. I'd try to stray away from using words like 'non sense' since VS is more or less about how we interpret the capabilities of characters, and we should try to be more respectful about other people's views.

Just a heads up is all, it's best we stay out of trouble around here.
 
Sonic has 5 tier 2 feats bro, pretty blatant context, in fact he has more tier 2 feats than any other tier
 
Theuser789 said:
Sonic has 5 tier 2 feats bro, pretty blatant context, in fact he has more tier 2 feats than any other tier
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I see, but I'm just saying you should try to be less agressive is all with your behavior. It's just that it's been awhile since I've looked into this stuff, and I forgot the justification behind it, and I was more or less going off of memory. That's all.

Have a good day.
 
Wha? I am not being agressive, "my oppinion" or "my intrepretations" are not excuses, oppinions and intrepretations can be wrong, very easily so, I am just keeping it real, I have seen staff members be more agressive than just saying "non sense"

Anyways you are welcome and good day/night to you
 
Theuser789 said:
Wha? I am not being agressive, "my oppinion" or "my intrepretations" are not excuses, oppinions and intrepretations can be wrong, very easily so, I am just keeping it real, I have seen staff members be more agressive than just saying "non sense"
Anyways you are welcome and good day/night to you
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Okay, sorry if I came off the way I did.

I wish everyone here a good night.
 
Super form AP varies based on thoughts, emotion, and aptitude. The greater the user's affinity for Chaos Energy is, the more power they can draw from the Chaos Emeralds.
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
Super form AP varies based on thoughts, emotion, and aptitude. The greater the user's affinity for Chaos Energy is, the more power they can draw from the Chaos Emeralds.
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Reminds me of Gurren Lagann and Green Lantern.
 
Is there like an actual stated thing showing Super Form power is derived from positive emotions because.

I tried to tell people on Discord this to justify Immeasurable speed Super Sonic at his peak and used the quote from Tikal in Adventure but they wrote it off as headcanon.
 
I mean, "headcanon" can literally be used to describe all of our ratings.

Elise was specifically stated to be able to perform miracles with the Emeralds, which was directly shown by her resurrecting Sonic, an ability only she has shown to perform so far. This is without mentioning Solaris canonically being considered far superior to even the Super forms but whatever. It's all semantics.

His other feats are more legitimate, but Immeasurable speed is always something I had sone issues with but I don't care much to debate since most "debates" are like preaching to a wall.

I also don't think wielding a staff that produces more AP than you can normally produce scales to the durability of the mech nor do Blaze and Sonic tank it's full power as it's greatly implied the "planet-busting attack" of the Wizard or whatever would've killed them both and specifically needed more energy to create. Think the Eggmen even say something about "Not playing/toying around" before using the attack that's supposed to one-shot them if Marine didn't intervene as well. It's also repeatedly said many times the Chaos Emeralds can be "charged" with positive or negative energy, and it would explain how inconsistent the AP feats are. They also can be used to pacify a negative force as also stated by Tails which is supported by how Sonic and Elise entered Solaris' mind after the Super forms pacified it's consciousness or whatever and neutralized a rampaging Chaos. But there's enough feats on the level if you ignore context to make it totally undoubted, but in-universe I don't see how you can write off the canonical ability to be charged by positive energy and quell negative forces as "headcanon". As of now I only see maybe two fully solid Tier 2 feats but you can argue for Time Eater that the Sonic's were having more power charged into the Emeralds through the support of their friends.

But I know I can't change other's minds and these are just my opinions. So please don't cone at me and berate my views or act posh
 
Maverick Zero X said:
I'll deconstruct... whatever this is in a bit if no one else does.
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Imma grab some Mountain Dew and Doritos, and watch whatever happens as of a result of this. This is gonna be good.
 
Foxthefox1000 said:
This is without mentioning Solaris canonically being considered far superior to even the Super forms but whatever. It's all semantics.
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In actuality, nothing supports Solaris being infinitely superior to Super Forms to the point where he could've killed them as if they were gnats. They directly scale to Solaris.

Egg Wizard nitpicking and headcanon

Except the Egg Wizard was using the Power of the Stars-infused Jeweled Scepter to amplify itself ; it's what served as the Egg Wizard's power source . Draining an energy source into your body and using said energy to augment yourself means you'd physically be comparable to it. The "Planet busting attack" stems from a 2-C power source, the PoTS what sustains parallel universes. Its Area of Effect only being planetary has no baring on its actual Attack Potency (See: An attack that creates a small explosion being used to harm and defeat a Low 2-C being ). More over, there's no proof this attack would've killed Sonic and Blaze; Eggman was panicked because his counterpart was about to destroy a planet he was planning to conquer.

Literal headcanon.

Absolutely nothing points to Sonic only beating Solaris via pacifying him, or any other of the Tier 2 enemies. Solaris, Egg Wizard, Time Eater, Phantom King, and the Egg Salamander were beaten through direct confrontation, which in most cases led to simply blowing up the enemy.
 
Tbh I feel like Egg Salamander shouldn't be 2-C via its own feats since it seems more like a feat from the Emeralds rather than the Salamander but idk, maybe there's some context I'm missing.
 
JJSliderman said:
Tbh I feel like Egg Salamander shouldn't be 2-C via its own feats since it seems more like a feat from the Emeralds rather than the Salamander but idk, maybe there's some context I'm missing.
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Salamander drained the Sol emeralds
 
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