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The Namless vs The Dawn Machine
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John quite literally resists every single one of DM's abilities, even discounting it's inability to actually interact with him.
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Basically, he has lived to long that he forgot his name, and no creature has lived enough to remember it neither (except by his ex-girlfriend). With the events of the GoM DLC, he remembered it once again.
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>Type 2 nonexistence
Well, as the fallen London expert, she's ******.
Well, as the fallen London expert, she's ******.
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So you agree it is a stomp?
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If the profile is correct, then yes.
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See @H13? I don't get what was your issue with making the match when it was going to end on less than 10 comments.
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The issue is that it was a total waste of effort to anyone who had more than a passing glance at the pages in question.
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Which proves my point that it was going to end in no time.
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Idk what you call "no time" but it sure as **** isn't 20 hours.
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Given the lenght of most VS Threads I'm on, less than a full day is totally a very short amount of time.
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anyway, stomp made, put the Nameless on the spot in the list instead of the Dawn Machine now please
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Souls in Anima are equivalent to type 2 concepts.ZacharyGrossman273 said:
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Souls in Anima are equivalent to type 2 concepts.
I don't see how that gives him NE.
Because his soul
Which is his concept
Doesn't exist
I don't see how that gives him NE.
Because his soul
Which is his concept
Doesn't exist
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But his concept doesn't exist
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nope, his body is nonexistent too
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Except his concept doesn't exist
You can go back and forth on this all you like but he still fits the definition of type 2 NEP regardless of your opinions on it
You can go back and forth on this all you like but he still fits the definition of type 2 NEP regardless of your opinions on it
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Not really
This is the definition
The lack of absolutely everything to a state of nonexistence at a conceptual level. Such a state defies even the most basic logical principles and is unknowable in the truest form, as it is not a state at all. Such entities are typically presented as primordial voids or pure emptiness, or any abstract state which precedes or opposes the state of existence on all levels. In terms of binary, this would be something that is neither 1 nor 0, where 1 is existence and 0 is nonexistence. Note the first line. He doesn't lack everything, just the soul concept. He also doesn't seem to be beyond logic or unknowable at all. At best this applies to Nemesis but not John.
This is the definition
The lack of absolutely everything to a state of nonexistence at a conceptual level. Such a state defies even the most basic logical principles and is unknowable in the truest form, as it is not a state at all. Such entities are typically presented as primordial voids or pure emptiness, or any abstract state which precedes or opposes the state of existence on all levels. In terms of binary, this would be something that is neither 1 nor 0, where 1 is existence and 0 is nonexistence. Note the first line. He doesn't lack everything, just the soul concept. He also doesn't seem to be beyond logic or unknowable at all. At best this applies to Nemesis but not John.
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Why exactly would the concept of someone not include their body?
Also, the people who updated NEP say that conceptual nonexistence counts as type 2.
Also, the people who updated NEP say that conceptual nonexistence counts as type 2.
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Prove that he still has his body then.
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None of that proves that he has an existent body, just that people can interact with him, which doesn't mean jack shit in relation to his nonexistence.
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Look this doesent make sense to me but take this to a CRT. I'm suspicious of it but revise it.
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It doesn't need a CRT.
If Potato actually read the scan that Antonio posted, he'd see that Nemesis usage specifically erases your body as well.
So his entire argument is based on ignorance.
If Potato actually read the scan that Antonio posted, he'd see that Nemesis usage specifically erases your body as well.
So his entire argument is based on ignorance.
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People interacting with him kinda proves that he exists. What seems more plausible. The guy exists.Hl3 or bust said:
The guy doesn't exist and everyone in the verse can interact with non-existing beings without issue and even feel his aura. In fact he seems kinda normal if you can't feel his aura.
I don't need to make a CRT because I think he can choose to stop existing with Nemesis(the profile suggests this too.) It is activated though, not a constant part of his being.
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That's a different thing from his normal nonexistence.
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Nonexistent Physiology (Type 2) (Even basic usage of Nemesis can turn one's body and soul into holes in reality, while John has fused both aspects of his being with the very energy of Nemesis)
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