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Ben 10 vs DB, but its not what you think

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Alien X vs Towa

Both are at their strongest 2-B forms

Speed is equalized

Both are bloodlusted

Ben is in full control

Battle takes place in the vastness of space

Who wins and why?

Alien X: 7

Towa: 1

Ness:

Towa
Alien X UAF Render2
 
It is a vote, since they are bloodlusted, AX will just erase her from existence at the start. Towa's vast AP Advantage and along with her own hax such as Mind Manipulation and Corruption are the only reasons why this isn't a stomp.
 
If they were in character then it would be a stomp for Towa due to AP and none of Alien X's in character hax will work on her
 
....Would Alien X even lead with EE while boodlusted? It doesn't just mean best technique, otherwise Mira would incon with mind-hax.
 
1. Bloodlusted means them using whatever abilities they have (even if it is OOC) to defeat the opponent. Alien X has 2 options which is EE or Info Manip and EE seems more likely

2. As I explained from the previous threads, in order for AX to be incapped, the opponent would need to Incap the personalities (which is located in a pocket dimension inside of Alien X). While Towa does have the range to affect them, she wouldn't have the knowledge so Mind Hax isn't a viable option unless she knew about the personalities (in which she doesn't). Even if she does knew about them and tries to, she'll most likely be erased from existence by then.
 
MagicCloud6 said:
1. Bloodlusted means them using whatever abilities they have (even if it is OOC) to defeat the opponent. Alien X has 2 options which is EE or Info Manip and EE seems more likely
2. As I explained from the previous threads, in order for AX to be incapped, the opponent would need to Incap the personalities (which is located in a pocket dimension inside of Alien X). While Towa does have the range to affect them, she wouldn't have the knowledge so Mind Hax isn't a viable option unless she knew about the personalities (in which she doesn't). Even if she does knew about them and tries to, she'll most likely be erased from existence by then.
1. OK, noted.

2. This is assuming that she wouldn't resort to something like Corruption on Alien X which very much screws him over.

Also why are we assuming that the EE is thought-based and instantaneous when it's never been demonstrated in a fight at all? It could require a hand-gesture, take some time or anything really.
 
Okay, first off don't quote large texts. It tends to clog the thread.

And as for your second point, it's not thought based I'll agree. Most of Alien X's abilities comes from a mere hand wave. So unless she knew about the personalities and uses any of her hax faster than a hand wave, she gets Ctl+Alt+Deleted.
 
Ben doesn't know about EE (isn't sure) and since he has full control he'll pull out mindhax first which gets resisted. That said Mira can't mindhax either so it's possible Bellicus and Serena pull out EE (it is pretty accepted that Kevin referred to EE when saying that Celestialsapiens could have a thought and they'd be gone so it should be thought-based) before she pulls out AP.

How good is the corruption since the Omnitrix can negate that for one person (uncorrupted by Corrodium as long as he is in alien form) and if it affects the mind or is biological manipulation then Alien X is out of range for the former and can use time manipulation to counter the latter and the Omnitrix also negates biological manipulation due to countering Doctor Animo's mutant Ray.
 
How would he not know about EE? Kevin stated that they could just blink and they'd be gone. Ben was RIGHT THERE when Kevin mentioned it
 
Bloodlusted means both characters using whatever tactics necessary to defeat the opponent. If it comes between Mind Hax and EE, a bloodlusted Ben controlling AX is more likely to pull off EE.

For the corruption part, it depends on how powerful it is. If the power of Towa's corruption is 4D, then the omnitrix won't be able to defend that.
 
Okey guys I have a question since the Bne 10 keep infinitely expending dosn't that mean the Ben 10 verse is bigger than the DBH verse?
 
If you're gonna ask something that is not related to this thread, please don't post it here and either make a CRT about it in the Q&A board or ask a knowledgeable Ben 10 or DB member
 
MagicCloud6 said:
If you're gonna ask something that is not related to this thread, please don't post it here and either make a CRT about it in the Q&A board or ask a knowledgeable Ben 10 or DB member
Im saying this because if it's true than Alien x should have the AP advantage against all DBH characters
 
Badrimoine2019 said:
Okey guys I have a question since the Bne 10 keep infinitely expending dosn't that mean the Ben 10 verse is bigger than the DBH verse?
Not even remotely. Even if it had been expanding since the beginning of time to the present it would still never approach the DBH multiverse, which is evey single possibility and variation across past, present and future. Simply put, a Many Worlds Theory multiverse is the highest level of 2-B achievable.
 
Badrimoine2019 said:
Wherever I vote for Alien x he can just wish her out of existence and the fight is over
I'd like to point out how we have no idea if this EE is even instantaneous but OK.

Towa corrupts GG.
 
Shubham Sonsurkar said:
If the EE is not instantaneous then

Corruption GG
There is no corruption GG or any shit GG it has been stated that Alien x can just wish someone out of existence so Alien x can just think about towa not existing and towa won't exist end of story
 
Not really. When he appeared in the first episode, he drew a circle with his hand and then waved at it and rewinded time.
 
Badrimoine2019 said:
Shubham Sonsurkar said:
If the EE is not instantaneous then

Corruption GG
There is no corruption GG or any shit GG it has been stated that Alien x can just wish someone out of existence so Alien x can just think about towa not existing and towa won't exist end of story
Show proof that he can do it with his thought alone

else Corruption GG
 
There is no corruption GG or any shit GG it has been stated that Alien x can just wish someone out of existence so Alien x can just think about towa not existing and towa won't exist end of story
Show proof that he can do it with his thought alone

else Corruption GG

Servantis stated that Alien x can just WISH someone out of existence. Alien x can just EE by just wishing/thinking about it and the OmniTrix does have a faile safe anyway so even if Alien x has been completely destroyed he would come back like nothing happened and EE towa
 
Alien X's EE is with a blink of an eye according to Kevin, unless Towa's Corruption or Mind hax is faster then it's GG for her
 
Yet all the bens who have fail safe died from chronosapian time bomb even the ben who had the Atomic X. So you need more that that else you're proving nothing here
 
Shubham Sonsurkar said:
Yet all the bens who have fail safe died from chronosapian time bomb even the ben who had the Atomic X. So you need more that that else you're proving nothing here
That was the biomnitrix not the OmniTrix and like I've said Alien x can just WISH HER OUT OF EXISTENCE, HE CAN EE BY JUST THINKING ABOUT IT
 
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