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Butters Brackets: Round 12 Deathstroke vs Bonsly

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And we are almost the to end of this tournament! Four more rounds! So let's do this. Now we have the returning winner Deathstroke from the DC Comics, Submitted by Psychomaster35, going up against another returning winner, Bonsly, from Pokémon, Submitted by 00potato

The Current Standings

Speed is equal

This is Bonslys first key (AKA the Pokémon they actually are)

This is Deathstrokes first key (Duh)

Deathstroke scales to 1.7 Tons of TNT

Bonsly scales to .62 Tons of TNT

And that should be all! Let's finish up these last four rounds!

Deathstroke: 7

Bonsly: 2

Inconclusive/Draw:
 
Assuming SBA states that Pokemon are at default wild and LVL 100, Bonsly unfortunately cant do much... especially since its still a baby.

On the other hand, Slade Wilson is an expert assassin, and fearful. Easily more experienced and far stronger. That would pretty much mean this: before it could even do any move, Slade simply shoots a tranquilizer dart to put it asleep, and even if he gets met with a Tearful Look (Reduces ATK and SP ATK by 1 stage, or 66% of Deathstroke's power), he still has the AP to eventually take his sword out and decapitate this baby tree down.

Obviously, the Terminator via skill, experience, AP, and intellect.
 
That is a good question and I'm not too sure. Because pokemon doesn't have an attack similar and I don't think Bonsly has the correct biology for it to work. Could be wrong
 
If even a Poison Sting could pierce a rock, the same should be said with a dart.

So, it should affect Bonsly if piercing moves are capable of doing it.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
If even a Poison Sting could pierce a rock, the same should be said with a dart.
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Yes but that is different case. Poison in pokemon affecting inanimate objects is a feat for the poison of pokemon, not that inanimate pokemon can be affected by all poisons
 
I believe there's also Pin Missile, if Im not mistaken, which also fires needle-like projectiles.
 
The piercing is not the issue, the issue is if deathstroke's tranq dart can tranquilize an inanimate object like a rock
 
The only thing that was not covered was the eyes, and said gel was shot at the man's eye, affecting him. So, by shooting at the eyes (especially since Deathstroke aims at Pressure Points), it will affect.

And even if it doesnt, he still has his staff, which can easily stun those hit with it.
 
Not sure if even aiming the gel into Bonsly's eyes will have the same effect, it isn't suggested to be biological as the only reason it "cries" is to expel moisture or else it will die, because its a rock.

It can also use Counter if its physically attacked, which doubles the damage of what it takes.

Not voting, just like Weekly I'm playing devil's advocate.
 
If it can counter, that stored kinetic energy when attaking his Ikon Armor actually gets transferred to Bonsly, so it will hurt it as well. And since Deathstroke is already more durable at the start, and Baby Pokemon at this point arent very well experienced, it is rather a doubt that it will try to play strategically.

Deathstroke is far more skilled, and seeing practically a baby already means he is not goint to waste any time to take this down easily. Hell, he can even lure the thing to tell it that he isnt going to hurt it (when in reality, he has tricked many others before) so he can make it fall for the trap and get the kill.
 
It wouldn't be playing strategically but rather reacting to what's happening, Bonsly and Sudowoodo avoid combat at all costs, assuming this one is a willing to kill someone per SBA it means its past the point of coercion.

I'm not arguing Deathstroke is more skilled because that's obvious, if anything, seeing such a meek looking thing might actually put Deathstroke off a little, especially if its "crying" profusely for no reason.

It should be noted that Bonsly will also increase in strength, durability and speed over the course of the fight, as it can be born with Curse and Rock Polish.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
Aye.

But... what will it do if Deathstroke can just use his AI to discover its weaknesses?
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Deathstroke will probably discover that Bonsly's a rock, but that doesn't immediately translate into using water or attacking it with grass (because Pokemon logic can be nonsensical), I'd need another scan for something that's that specific.

EDIT: Well, it's also weak to Fighting, and you could argue Deathstroke's attacks could count as that too, but he's not going to understand why that is Bonsly's weakness without verse knowledge, it isn't common sense for rocks to be weak to leaves or punches and kicks.
 
The AI tells Deathstroke whatever his target's vulnerabilities are, especially mid-fight. And regardless, he would go for it anyways, as what his AI says. And even if said weakness exploit is a trap, he is prepared to stun it anyways with his staff, or even give Bonsly a concussion through his concussive disorientation grenades. Also, Pressure Points (Seen in Teen Titans (2016) #28). He will aim for major points to incapacitate it.
 
Psychomaster35 said:
The AI tells Deathstroke whatever his target's vulnerabilities are, especially mid-fight. And regardless, he would go for it anyways, as what his AI says. And even if said weakness exploit is a trap, he is prepared to stun it anyways with his staff, or even give Bonsly a concussion through his concussive disorientation grenades. Also, Pressure Points (Seen in Teen Titans (2016) #28). He will aim for major points to incapacitate it.
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Yes, but what I'm asking for is how it comes to that conclusion which is why I wanted more scans, what makes it look at Bonsly and say "use water" without further analysis? Has it assessed inherent weaknesses of rocks before? The AI analyzing the shapeshifter's suit is one thing, but it's another to find a weakness in a species it's never seen before.

Disorientation will probably work, but not sold on pressure points, as Deathstroke would first need to find out that said pressure points exist on a rock in the first place.
 
With Tearful look, Bonsly can lower slade's AP up to 4 times.

Quick correction with the AP, Bonsly scales to cleffa, who tabked the .62 feat.

This means that Slade won't really be able to hurt him.

He also has Rick tomb to lower his speed by the same amount. This combined with his small size and radically different physiology to what Slade has dealt with gives him a large edge.
 
Even in CQC, Bonsly can actually hold his own. Slades's skill is balanced out by Bonsly being radically different then anything he has ever dealt with and being hard to predict do to how weird his moveset is. He has sucker punch for some reason and that can catch Slade off guard due to it hitting first (I guess we count that as a speed amp?) Counter will also well Counter Slade's damage (and do to the speed debuffs, he will be likely to react.). He also can copy Slade's moves with copycat and flinch him with Rock Throw.
 
Gonna have to hard say no on Slade not being able to harm Bonsly. Both pierce weapon and tanking the feat doesn't mean they can't be hurt by it. Just will be notably harder. But guns and swords exist. I'm wondering what stops deathstroke from out shooting. Tearful look doesn't effect his guns power at all. At that range. He probably prefer guns away
 
Oh wait oof. Bonsly isn't even able to use those moves due to the range. Deathstroke is way out of range
 
Buttersamuri said:
Gonna have to hard say no on Slade not being able to harm Bonsly. Both pierce weapon and tanking the feat doesn't mean they can't be hurt by it. Just will be notably harder. But guns and swords exist. I'm wondering what stops deathstroke from out shooting. Tearful look doesn't effect his guns power at all. At that range. He probably prefer guns away
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No one said Slade can't hurt Bonsly, he just can't tranquilize it or use pressure points because its a rock.
 
00potato said:
With Tearful look, Bonsly can lower slade's AP up to 4 times.

Quick correction with the AP, Bonsly scales to cleffa, who tabked the .62 feat. This means that Slade won't really be able to hurt him.

He also has Rick tomb to lower his speed by the same amount. This combined with his small size and radically different physiology to what Slade has dealt with gives him a large edge.
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CBslayeR said:
Would tear gas and explosives work?
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Explosives yes, doubtful about tear gas, Bonsly doesn't actually produce tears and instead its supposedly more akin to sweat, and its for the express purpose of expelling moisture from its body because it needs to be dry, it's unknown what effects will work on it and which ones won't.
 
The debuffs should work on Slade's Guns, It works in all Pokémon, even the ones with weapons unrelated to them such as Farfetched and Sirfetched.
 
No. Because those weapons involve their own physical power or something coming from them. Not a range weapon they wield. Their weapon isn't even weakened. What's weakened is how strong they can swing it. But it Would not effect a gun at all.

And even at debuffed times 4. It still pierces cause pierce damage. Regardless though. It wouldn't effect the gun at all.
 
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