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I was just looking after a forum discussion about plutonic concepts transcending reality and all possible existing concepts, but frankly, that sounds kinda like an illogical impossibility. For something to be beyond reality, it would have to be both beyond all created concepts within a verse, so it must transcend the concept of existence. The problem with this conception, though, is that plutonic concepts could NEVER be beyond all concepts. Take something like true non-existence/nothingness as an example, it is the only observable eternal concept in our universe beacuse it isn't bounded by Time and space, as everything that exists ultimately comes back to non-existence if it gets deleted, even Gods whom created time and space are still bounded in a form of time and Space, beacuse when they get destroyed, they comeback to being nothingness, which is eternal and is always present. The same thing goes for a plutonic concept' a concept beyond reality intended as beyond all possible universes/multiverses and existence in general is possible, but it's still bounded by reality as it can get destroyed and reverted back to it's original state(nothingness), so while it can be considered as 2-A or high 2-A, it is definitely not 1-A, as thus it may surpass every possible existing concept in reality, but it doesn't surpass non-existence which is also a material manifestation of something, AKA the concept of being the exact opposite of existence. An abstraction is something that has no material form whereas you can see the nothingness that there is after you've eaten a plate of pasta, so it is still bounded inside reality in some form, and it's not a trascendable concept. Not only that, but things get even worse if we assume that a plutonic concept is the abstract manifestation of something material inside reality: if it derived from reality, how can it be outside it? Doesn't make much sense to me. A plutonic concept has a time where it begins and where it ends, nothingness is always there.
