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Boys and girls

Ogres and Cyborgs

It's time...

Who will win?

BL YUJIRO:

VS

BL RAIDEN:

SPEED EQUALIZED

YUJIRO STARTS IN DB

RAIDEN IN BLADE MODE

WHO WINS
 
Schnee One said:
You can't restrict Raidens Amps as they don't change tier either.
That's like if i said someone who is a baseline 9-B can amp to High-end 9-B even though it's the same tier. It's a 10x difference in speed, it shouldn't be allowed. Wouldn't that be blitzing?
 
That's like if i said someone who is a baseline 9-B can amp to High-end 9-B even though it's the same tier. It's a 10x difference in speed, it shouldn't be allowed. Wouldn't that be blitzing?

If the character is faster it's okay to blitz

And yeah, it's a silly rule but it's a rule nonetheless

Sorry, but you can't restrict his amp
 
So... now Yujiro annihilates with BL

Several acceleration and speed amps

Massive skill advantage

starts in DB

Ripperoni
 
Raiden can just do that thing where he swung his sword and made a Vacuum of Cuts like in the first cutscene of the game.
 
Schnee One said:
Raidens Amos are better and he can one shot with his Murasama
What are Raiden's amps? With just one amp, Hitless Blow, a Supersonic blitzed a Hypersonic 3 times (Katsumi v Pickle). That's not even including Cockroach Tackle, an acceleration amp, or the Forward Leaning Stance, with allows Pickle to go from being outsped by a dino to outspeeding it. BL Yujiro can also start with 0.5, making this a borderline, if an actual, stomp
 
Sorry, not SS blitzing a HS, Katsumi SOO is also HS. So Hitless Blow can blitz someone faster but not in a different speed tier
 
Blade made amps him from MHS+ to Sub Rel

.5 won't work for reasons we went through previously

More importantly bloodlusted means he only has time for one amp, as both go amp at one time.
 
Schnee One said:
Blade made amps him from MHS+ to Sub Rel
.5 won't work for reasons we went through previously

More importantly bloodlusted means he only has time for one amp, as both go amp at one time.
We discuss last thread, it's only a 10x amp. Sangan alone is at least 2.25x, not including the other ton of amps

0.5 will work because speed is equalized

0.5 allows Yujiro to take a free turn under speed equalized or if Yujiro is faster than his opponent

Edit: Also, several of Yujiro's amps can be used at once, as they are literally his moves. Cockroach Tackle makes him accelerate faster, and once he gets to Raiden, he can throw a Lightspeed Jab or a Hitless Blow, or launch a Forward Leaning Stance into a Mach Punch
 
10x is way higher then 2.25

He can't pull a move that requires acting before the brain can think on a cyborg brain.
 
Schnee One said:
10x is way higher then 2.25
He can't pull a move that requires acting before the brain can think on a cyborg brain.
At least 2,25x, and that's one of around 10+


All speeds are equalized, including reactionary speed. Yujiro can skip his reactionary phase with 0.5, Raiden cannot
 
The Prince of Counters said:
I still have doubts that 0.5 is gonna effect what is essentially a super computer.
I understand that, but is there anything to say that he doesn't have to process information or can skip that process? Super computers can process that info waaay faster than people, faster being the operative word, but speed is equalized
 
Schnee One said:
Why does .5 even matter if Raiden Amps to 10x? That nulls it
Because while Raiden's brain is processing the information that Yujiro exists and they're fighting to the death, Yujiro can hit him. Raiden would literally be wide open and defenseless, as he'd be in the middle of processing the info. After that info is process, Raiden would probably amp or do something else equally as powerful, but Yujiro can skip this phase with 0.5, so basically Yujiro is able to attack and move for a period that Raiden cannot
 
And what stops Raiden from activating his amp and denying it? He has to cross distance before that happens and it's not like Yujiro's thought process is faster then another person can think
 
Schnee One said:
And what stops Raiden from activating his amp and denying it? He has to cross distance before that happens and it's not like Yujiro's thought process is faster then another person can think
Because he literally hasn't processed the information that Yujiro exists and that he's fighting him yet. If speed is equalized, they both process information at the same speed, except 1 of them, Yujiro, can skip that time period. Raiden can amp, but not before he gets decked into next week
 
The Prince of Counters said:
Can I just ask why 0.5 is even working on non Baki-verse characters? Unless this is a real life study in real life that happens it really shouldn't be used.
It's literally reaction, like real-life reaction. 0.5 definitely isn't the actual time, as is outline on Yujiro's page, but 0.5 just lets Baki and Yujiro to skip reaction to process info instantly
 
Because he literally hasn't processed the information that Yujiro exists and that he's fighting him yet. If speed is equalized, they both process information at the same speed, except 1 of them, Yujiro, can skip that time period. Raiden can amp, but not before he gets decked into next week

Yujiro himself has to process information and speed is Equal, so why is he automatically faster?

You're saying he can use this as an amp because speed is Equalized yet his thought speed is automatically faster....Because speed is Equalized?

Dafuck
 
Because he literally hasn't processed the information that Yujiro exists and that he's fighting him yet. If speed is equalized, they both process information at the same speed, except 1 of them, Yujiro, can skip that time period. Raiden can amp, but not before he gets decked into next week

Yujiro himself has to process information and speed is Equal, so why is he automatically faster?

You're saying he can use this as an amp because speed is Equalized yet his thought speed is automatically faster....Because speed is Equalized?

Dafuck

Yeah, DAFUCK?!
 
Schnee One said:
Because he literally hasn't processed the information that Yujiro exists and that he's fighting him yet. If speed is equalized, they both process information at the same speed, except 1 of them, Yujiro, can skip that time period. Raiden can amp, but not before he gets decked into next week
Yujiro himself has to process information and speed is Equal, so why is he automatically faster?
You're saying he can use this as an amp because speed is Equalized yet his thought speed is automatically faster....Because speed is Equalized?

Dafuck

No, it only acts similarly to a reaction speed amp if the opponent is faster, but make no mistake: it is not an amp

When Raiden and Yujiro both appear to fight, they both have to process that information in their brains. Yujiro can skip the processing time and act while Raiden is still processing that info
 
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