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Goku did both by doing exactly that, resisting both of those is less ridiculous than Toppo somehow being able to one shot Jiren because 'muh hakai'.ArmBill said:I agree, also people should be able to resist EE, and Time manipulation by flexing their muscles. ƒÿö feelsbadma
You can say 'rejected' all you want, it won't do anything unless you make an actual point, you're not a staff member.Ionliosite said:Sigh, the same rejected AGAIN, this is tiresome already.
You still haven't made a point.Ionliosite said:You know? You made want to make a CRT to remove Vice Shout now, since this argument should die, it's been rejected so many times this just beating a dead cow at this point.
Really? Now we're getting somewhere.The real cal howard said:The Vice Shout was agreed to be removed a while ago, actually.
Unlike you actualy making a point to defend your position, that one is really going nowhere.Ionliosite said:Really? Now we're getting somewhere.The real cal howard said:The Vice Shout was agreed to be removed a while ago, actually.
No, it doesn't, basic logic doesn't fall apart without any counter argument just because another thread had a decision.Ionliosite said:If the Vice Shout is removed as Cal said, then your argument falls apart. "Resistances via AP" isn't something that we should do, specially because on Dragon Ball's case, it's more like the hax not negating dura than anything. And the space-time argument falls by the simple fact no one above Gogeta and Broly has ever shown anything close to it.
^Literally this.Dragomer said:No, it doesn't, basic logic doesn't fall apart without any counter argument just because another thread had a decision.Ionliosite said:If the Vice Shout is removed as Cal said, then your argument falls apart. "Resistances via AP" isn't something that we should do, specially because on Dragon Ball's case, it's more like the hax not negating dura than anything. And the space-time argument falls by the simple fact no one above Gogeta and Broly has ever shown anything close to it.
Yeah, we totaly shouldn't do what actualy make sense because....you said so ? Toppo one shotting Jiren is a dumb ******* notion and everyone knows it, don't pretend otherwise.
It doesn't fall at all, by that logic we didn't see anyone do the same as SSJG Goku, so pebble level Quitela when ?
The simple fact here is that Broly and Gogeta did something through normal ass attack that we know everyone can do, so there is no reason anyone of their level shouldn't be able to do it, your whole argument is basicaly 'well, A kicked open a door and B is litteraly 930749468576 time stronger than A but we never saw him kick a door so he can't, just look him in a room and he's done !' as if that make any sense. (and no, it's isn't different, kicks are no different from ki blast in the DB vers)
^ ThisAwkguyDB said:It's literally shown to be a scalable feat.
The real cal howard said:The Vice Shout was agreed to be removed a while ago, actually.
Yeah, using your brain and canon information isn't a concept, obviously Quitela has negative durability and AP with no ability whatsoever, because that make sense somehow.Ionliosite said:Quitela shouldn't even have a profile, he never lifted a finger on the whole series and everything said about him is speculation.
"Using your brain" has nothing to do with this. We have no information about Quitela's abilities, AP or durability whatsover. It's not negative, it's Unknown.Ionliosite said:Yeah, using your brain and canon information isn't a concept, obviously Quitela has negative durability and AP with no ability whatsoever, because that make sense somehow.