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I've been informed recently of two things that I'd like clarification on: processing delay is not 0.5, but 0.1 for normal people, much less Hypersonic fighters, and this is not covered under Verse Equalization. Thoughts?
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I plan to pull the opposition in to argue the pointOblivion Of The Endless said:I can accept the fact that it cant work on people faster than Baki, Yujiro and others from the verse
But it should work if they have the same speed or lower than Baki/Yujiro, especially under matches with Speed Equalized
Thanks for dropping your thoughts here, this argument was one called into question, so now you can defend your argument here if it's called into questionAmlad22 said:I've made my points on this before. But my main point is that with verse equalization being a thing that allows matches from some of our favourite verses like Bleach, Naruto, etc to be possible without being stomps, Baki shouldn't be a verse that is for some reason exempt from verse equalization.
Speed literally means nothing against 0.5 as well. If you can stop Baki before he activates the move, then it can be stopped. But even if you are 1000x faster, and you let Baki/Yujiro start the 0.5, you literally become unable to react or move for those 0.5 seconds. Speed means little to nothing once the move has been activated. The big example of this is of course how Base Baki used 0.5 on Yujiro despite the latter being able to blitz Baki multiple times casually.
Didn't both Baki and Yujiro spam it with each other?Anttron224 said:It only allows them to act in the timeframe it takes for someone to react, and it eventually can't be used after a certain amount of times because a fighter would adjust to being tricked constantly. It isn't op unless they would one shot in the first use, which would mean that the match probably didn't need to exist anyway.
Then how do we explain them having MHS reactions? It literally doesn't make sense to say their reaction is significantly worse than a normal human, but Yujiro can react to a lightning boltCiruno Fortes said:You can't convert 0.5 seconds into higher degrees.
The creator created the 0.5 weakness with the intent of people reacting in that way. In VS debates, that's a law that's gonna be ignored by the capabilities of people.
This seems like a simple fix: saying that it's actually 0.5 seconds is a Death of the Author fallacy, and this site accepts that it works on MHS or lower and in speed equalizedCiruno Fortes said:Then it seems more like a contradiction of the ability itself, and is unlikely to be an actual accurate ability that should be used on a match.
On the first place, it's less "Oh clearly this ability is much faster than we expected" and more the author didn't think it through.
Also the reason we explain them having MHS reactions? Simple. The author believes in the limit of 0.5 seconds. Usually we use calcs to get an estimate of how fast their reactions are since this stuff is not something the author accounts for. In this case, the author set the 0.5 as a constant pre-reflex thing for the Baki universe.
That's it really. But now it seems to be contradicted by other feats in the verse so it becomes more questionable on it having to be included
Again, Death of the Author makes the "its only 0.5 seconds because the author said so" an Association fallacy, either we take the author's word for it, who has proven himself unreliable on this topic, or the site's accepted calcsCiruno Fortes said:Usually it would work on such MHS speeds if it wasn't an ability that specified the seconds of human reactions.
If it was like "There is a bit of time before any human can act upon their reactions" I would've believed you in the past already.
But this specifically contradicts feats and calcs. To me it makes more sense that it's an ability that just doesn't make sense on the context of if they can really move that fast. You can't just upgrade an ability and say it works for MHS.
AnonymousBlank said:Thats not what happens. We know for certain that there is a gap between choosing to do something and doing something in Baki. The only thing that gets disregarded is the 0.5 second timeframe as its shown to be blatantly false, not the ability to exploit this gap.
If 5 seconds isn't proper to the reaction time, either his speed and reaction time is wrong and it's 5 seconds, or his speed is correct, but it's not 5 seconds. Same thing with this situation. Either the author is right or the site is, but it's abundantly clear that both isn't true in this situationThe real cal howard said:By that logic, Dio's timestop actually lasts .0000000005 seconds because it's 5 seconds to his MFTL reactions.