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Since our HtTYD profiles are in need of maintenance, I'm contributing with some calcs & feats to upgrade & solidify the verse. Let's start with the strength of average dragons.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ragon_Assorted_Feats#Hookfang_Destroys_a_Tree
This calc shows us the AP for a Monstrous Nightmare's flames, that being City Block level. As strong as they are, they're not THAT much stronger than other dragons, so most would scale to this, like Night Furies, Zipplebacks, & "possibly" Gronckles, not entirely sure about that last one though. However, since dragons are known for being fire resistant, this likely won't scale to their durability. For that, I have another calc.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ssorted_Feats#Skullcrusher_Knocks_Over_a_Rock
This calc shows us the Striking Strength for a Rumblehorn knocking over a rock formation, calced at City Block level. Again, Rumblehorns are pretty tough, but most other dragons should be close enough in strength to scale.
With that said, now's a good time to talk about vikings. They're currently Wall level, I'm not going to explain why that's wrong. Average vikings should scale to dragon durability & striking strength, as they have a history of killing them. Not only that, but vikings can survive natural lightning pretty casually, & have taken hits from dragons. Gobber & Stoick have physically gone toe-to-toe with dragons, so scaling to 8-B isn't too farfetched. Adding on to that, Stoick should be "At least 8-B" for being far superior to other vikings, & being strong enough to outright defeat a Thunderdrum in physical combat. Weaker vikings can be "At least 9-B", as they can also survive lightning, & Snotlout claimed his Coming of Age Ritual was to kill a bear when he was 9 months old. Normally I'd assume he was bragging, but this is a ritual for his whole clan, meaning others did it, & he'd likely take it seriously. Also, it was in the context of coming of age rituals, and he didn't seem to be bragging. Besides, these characters are gonna grow up to be the 8-B ones, so I think this is fair.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ragon_Assorted_Feats#Stormfly_Melts_a_Boulder
This calc shows the AP for Deadly Nadder's fire breath, that being Multi-City Block level+. Unlike Monstrous Nightmares, Nadders are recognized for having REALLY hot fire, so much so that vikings claim it to be as hot as the Sun (likely not true, but it puts things into perspective). Therefore, this feat shouldn't scale to average dragons.
However, it should scale to stronger dragons. Large & powerful dragons like the Red Death & Screaming Death should be "At least 8-A+" for being overall FAR superior to Nadders.
So here's my overall verdict:
Weaker Vikings: At least 9-B
Average Vikings: 8-B
Strong Vikings: At least 8-B
Average Dragons: 8'-B'
Strong Dragons: At least 8-B with 8-A+ AP
Stronger Dragons: At least 8-A+
While I'm here, I want to say that Toothless shouldn't scale to the Red Death. He may've been able to harm it, but it was otherwise depicted as FAR superior to him, & required a specific strategy to actually be killed.
I also don't think Alpha Toothless should be scaled to the Bewilderbeast. While he did become much stronger, managed to put up a fight, & even harmed it, he also had the help of THOUSANDS of other dragons. Sure, Toothless broke off his tusk, but that was after he was bombarded by the aforementioned army, & was likely weakened before Toothless dealt the final blow, which mind you, didn't kill the Bewilderbeast. Without the help of the other dragons, this fight likely would've gone similarly to the Red Death fight. And for anyone bringing up that the Bewilderbeast was praising Toothless in the 3rd movie, that doesn't mean Toothless is stronger, it just means Toothless rightfully earned his position by gaining the respect of nearly every other dragon. If the Bewilderbeast were to turn on him, the other dragons could just gang up on him again, & we all know how that went. I could probably say more but I think I've talked long enough. What do you all think?
Since our HtTYD profiles are in need of maintenance, I'm contributing with some calcs & feats to upgrade & solidify the verse. Let's start with the strength of average dragons.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ragon_Assorted_Feats#Hookfang_Destroys_a_Tree
This calc shows us the AP for a Monstrous Nightmare's flames, that being City Block level. As strong as they are, they're not THAT much stronger than other dragons, so most would scale to this, like Night Furies, Zipplebacks, & "possibly" Gronckles, not entirely sure about that last one though. However, since dragons are known for being fire resistant, this likely won't scale to their durability. For that, I have another calc.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ssorted_Feats#Skullcrusher_Knocks_Over_a_Rock
This calc shows us the Striking Strength for a Rumblehorn knocking over a rock formation, calced at City Block level. Again, Rumblehorns are pretty tough, but most other dragons should be close enough in strength to scale.
With that said, now's a good time to talk about vikings. They're currently Wall level, I'm not going to explain why that's wrong. Average vikings should scale to dragon durability & striking strength, as they have a history of killing them. Not only that, but vikings can survive natural lightning pretty casually, & have taken hits from dragons. Gobber & Stoick have physically gone toe-to-toe with dragons, so scaling to 8-B isn't too farfetched. Adding on to that, Stoick should be "At least 8-B" for being far superior to other vikings, & being strong enough to outright defeat a Thunderdrum in physical combat. Weaker vikings can be "At least 9-B", as they can also survive lightning, & Snotlout claimed his Coming of Age Ritual was to kill a bear when he was 9 months old. Normally I'd assume he was bragging, but this is a ritual for his whole clan, meaning others did it, & he'd likely take it seriously. Also, it was in the context of coming of age rituals, and he didn't seem to be bragging. Besides, these characters are gonna grow up to be the 8-B ones, so I think this is fair.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ragon_Assorted_Feats#Stormfly_Melts_a_Boulder
This calc shows the AP for Deadly Nadder's fire breath, that being Multi-City Block level+. Unlike Monstrous Nightmares, Nadders are recognized for having REALLY hot fire, so much so that vikings claim it to be as hot as the Sun (likely not true, but it puts things into perspective). Therefore, this feat shouldn't scale to average dragons.
However, it should scale to stronger dragons. Large & powerful dragons like the Red Death & Screaming Death should be "At least 8-A+" for being overall FAR superior to Nadders.
So here's my overall verdict:
Weaker Vikings: At least 9-B
Average Vikings: 8-B
Strong Vikings: At least 8-B
Average Dragons: 8'-B'
Strong Dragons: At least 8-B with 8-A+ AP
Stronger Dragons: At least 8-A+
While I'm here, I want to say that Toothless shouldn't scale to the Red Death. He may've been able to harm it, but it was otherwise depicted as FAR superior to him, & required a specific strategy to actually be killed.
I also don't think Alpha Toothless should be scaled to the Bewilderbeast. While he did become much stronger, managed to put up a fight, & even harmed it, he also had the help of THOUSANDS of other dragons. Sure, Toothless broke off his tusk, but that was after he was bombarded by the aforementioned army, & was likely weakened before Toothless dealt the final blow, which mind you, didn't kill the Bewilderbeast. Without the help of the other dragons, this fight likely would've gone similarly to the Red Death fight. And for anyone bringing up that the Bewilderbeast was praising Toothless in the 3rd movie, that doesn't mean Toothless is stronger, it just means Toothless rightfully earned his position by gaining the respect of nearly every other dragon. If the Bewilderbeast were to turn on him, the other dragons could just gang up on him again, & we all know how that went. I could probably say more but I think I've talked long enough. What do you all think?
