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Lowest Tier Characters who can beat Accelerator and his Vector Shield (Part 2)

Oblivion_Of_The_Endless

Oblivion_Of_The_Endless

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A character for each Tier below 4-B that can win singlehandely.

RULES:

  • Speed equalized for everyone.
  • Accelerator is fighting back
  • Platinum Wings Accel being used aka his 4-B version
  • And explain why your character can defeat him/bypass the vector shield
  • SBA
Tier High 4-C: Caine (World of Darkness), Lilith, Mages, Devimo, Meng Hao (Spirit Realm), Wang Li, Characters from Tensei Slime, The Champion of Cyrodiil

Tier 4-C: Caine (World of Darkness), Lilith, Mages

Tier Low 4-C:

Tier High 5-A: Khârn the Betrayer

Tier 5-A: Beatrice (Wild Arms)

Tier 5-B: Yhwach

Tier Low 5-B: Characters from BlazBlue

Tier 5-C: Oryx, the Taken King

Tier High 6-A: The Dovahkii

Tier 6-A: Characters from Tensei Slime

Tier High 6-B:

Tier 6-B:

Tier Low 6-B:

Tier High 6-C:

Tier 6-C: Devimo, Rimuru, Diablo

Tier High 7-A: Pennywise

Tier 7-A: Goetia, Avenger (Edmond Dantès)

Tier 7-B: Homura Akemi (Homullily), The Doctor

Tier Low 7-B: The Narrator (The Stanley Parable)

Tier High 7-C:

Tier 7-C:

Tier Low 7-C: Altair (Re:Creators)

Tier 8-A:

Tier 8-B: Misogi Kumagawa, Medaka Kurokami, The Narrator (The Stanley Parable)

Tier High 8-C: Devimo

Tier 8-C: SCP-3930

Tier 9-A: Jill Presto, Mage (World of Darkness)

Tier 9-B: Cain (DC Comics)

Tier 9-C: Mage (World of Darkness)

Tier 10-A: Yogiri Takatou

Tier 10-B: Little Treasure, Cueball (xkcd), Bunny Girl Kare, Higashikawa Mamoru, Molecule Ma

Tier 10-C: Cueball (xkcd)

Tier 11-A:

Tier 11-B:

Tier 11-C:

Tier Unknown/Varies: Cain (DC Comics)
 
Kharn High 5-A, power null on 1-B

Goetia 7-A, Abstract 2 and time paradox.

Homura 7-B affecting Accasual type 5 and Abstract type 1

Altair low 7-C plot manip.

Misogi 8-B EE

Medaka 8-B EE

Jill 9-A 1-A hax
 
SpookyShadow wrote.Does she have dura negating stuff though? Or 4-B attacks? Or only her time stop affect these type of guys
Mindhax the can affect accasual type 5 You need concept manip type 2 interact with them. Which she bypass.
 
A lot of Oryx's hax doesn't have vectors and is smurfy. Accelerator also has no way of doing anything against Oryx because of his Type 5 acausality.
 
Accelerate420 said:
StNot said:
With some prep, I think John Constantine would completely wipe the floor with Accelerator, even if Accelerator can resist direct "instant kill" abilities (through modelling them as having vectors using his PR), if Accelerator's connection to Sephiroth is somehow severed through a ritual, it would end his life (as Sephiroth/Tree of Life is presumed to be the source of "life") and unless Accelerator is constantly prepared for something like that, the severing itself would not be subject to any of his usual protections (unless he can sense the attempt and counter it quickly enough) and would bypass his usual vector shield as it's not aimed at him even with reinterpreting it through his PR.
Characters that can indirectly kill in same fashion (like presumably Yhwach) should also be able to use Accelerator's own methodology against him, it's just a matter of who goes first. Constantine on the other hand is not nearly as powerful but could easily pull it off with research.

That's my guess at least. I was just thinking of the best and most reliable counter to Accelerator and Constantine came to mind.
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Interesting, but Accel isn't limited to the Sephirot in Index now that the Clonoth exists as well. I don't particularly think they work like that though in Index despite both having them in their respective verses. The Tree of Life is more so like a structure that the soul is used to ascend less so than a life-force link. Though I guess in a vs debate this doesn't matter, so I think it'd still work.
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If I recall correctly, Sephirot in Index has always remained the "main" tree of life, similar, in concept to "Power of God" - ability to create and destroy (not just matter or energy - concepts, realities, dimensions, life). Coronzon's Magick Sword for example relied on a long incantation that directed the flow of "energy" within it in a certain fashion that could, at its most powerful destroy the universe and easily overwhelmed IB. It stands to reason that Accelerator's most powerful potential abilities could utilize the same principles except much faster and without the need for complex rituals (this could also explain how he could counter Magick Sword considering it was a metaphysical attack in its origin).

Since it seems to preside above phases, it seems any extremely proficient occultists could find a way to make the severing happen without Accelerator noticing a thing. Of course if he or Puzzle do, then it's game over for Constantine, but given his reputation and feats, he seems to be the most likely person to pull this off.
 
SpookyShadow said:
John985 said:
Arjuna Alter in 7-A, with his EE attack.
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Magic attack?
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Yes, but you really need a proof of him tanking EE attack.

Dantes with him being Immeasurable, I dont think the shield can even defend attack with that speed.

Most of his stuff wont work with accasual type 5 or Nonexistent Physiology.
 
SpookyShadow said:
Yeah, also you need to recognize Accy is fighting back.
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Yeah, this is not simply who can bypass Accelerator's reflection but who can defeat Accelerator. It means you have to take in what Accelerator will do and his durability in Platinum wings into consideration.
 
@StNot

While I think in a Vsdebate it won't really matter about the semantics, I don't think everyone has a life connection to it. Everyone has a structure of it on their soul, but their soul is not 100% reliant on it as there are various occult structures such as the Qliphoth and now the Clonoth. We don't know what would happen if they were 'cut off' from it, but it's basically just a means to ascend and cultivate the soul. The Tree itself is a metaphysical concept constant in the Phases, but everyone has its structure on their soul.

The demon in The Accel spin-off for instance wanted to ascend the structure of the Sephirot within their soul, not on some abstract tree somewhere inside the universer. But I guess until we get more info on it that's about all I can explain it. That being said I do think it'd work in regards to Vsdebate mechanics anyways.
 
Oblivion Of The Endless said:
Yes, but you really need a proof of him tanking EE attack.
Dantes with him being Immeasurable, I dont think the shield can even defend attack with that speed.

Most of his stuff wont work with accasual type 5 or Nonexistent Physiology.
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Speed Equalized
I know, but Enfer Château d'If is speed amp.
 
John985 said:
Oblivion Of The Endless said:
Yes, but you really need a proof of him tanking EE attack.
Dantes with him being Immeasurable, I dont think the shield can even defend attack with that speed.

Most of his stuff wont work with accasual type 5 or Nonexistent Physiology.
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Speed Equalized
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I know, but Enfer Château d'If is speed amp.
Ah, okay
 
John985 said:
SpookyShadow said:
John985 said:
Arjuna Alter in 7-A, with his EE attack.
Click to expand...
Magic attack?
Click to expand...
Yes, but you really need a proof of him tanking EE attack.
Dantes with him being Immeasurable, I dont think the shield can even defend attack with that speed.

Most of his stuff wont work with accasual type 5 or Nonexistent Physiology.
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You don't need him to tank an attack to defend against an attack. If the properties are Magic then it'll be defended against. He's already analyzed the entire world of Magic through nigh-omniscience after crossing the Abyss and it's stated Magic can no longer reach him.
 
He doesnt even need to attack him directly, he just swung his blade down. Then all the people who he considered evil were erase.
 
The only reason he was defeated is because someone time travel to the past. Well it's not everything but, that's one of the big reason why he lost. They broke his Authority.
 
You mean Accel? Well, in lower keys time manip would be a huge problem. Magic is pretty meaningless against him, so are vector/scalar based attacks... Not many things can work on him. But he can be incapped, with incredible effort though. You need some serious broken hax to actually affect him
 
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