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Speed Equalized
22nd Budokai Goku
Ruby can't use her silver eyes.
No BFR
Who wins and why?
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Kid Goku vs. Ruby Rose
- Thread starter SuperKamiNappa
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Speed Equalized
22nd Budokai Goku
Ruby can't use her silver eyes.
No BFR
Who wins and why?
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I'm gonna go with Goku just because he's a more skilled fighter and WAY more physically capable. Without her team, she can't do much and Goku could easily wreck that scythe
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Goku easily
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Ruby with high difficulty, Goku is tough bur her dust ammo gives her a lot of ways to both slow down and damage Goku, as well as increase her speed and unpredictability. Her semblance would allow her to outspeed Goku as well.
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I'd have to go with Goku as well, with basically what has been said above.
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Goku for the reasons above. And there is always great ape
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Ruby via range. The gap between their range powers is greater than the gap between their H2H.
And Ruby could just freeze Goku to end the match.
And Ruby could just freeze Goku to end the match.
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And Ruby could run and keep her distance.
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He's not a jedi master and those aren't regular bullets.
Ruby carries well over enough bullets to last until the end of this fight.
Ruby carries well over enough bullets to last until the end of this fight.
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Ruby because speed advantage and range advantage, also I've never bought the 'db characters are so skilled at martial arts that they always have the advantage in melee' thing since all they seem to do is hit hard, move fast, take a lot of damage, and shoot beams of energy. Maybe that will change someday if the outcome of a DB fight comes down to a series of intricate blocks and parries and situational menouvers instead of brute force and being angry.
To be fair original dragon ball was the time when individual fighters special moves and strategies were the most relevant compared to power levels, but it's still not that significant compared to a series like kenichi or even ranma 1/2.
To be fair original dragon ball was the time when individual fighters special moves and strategies were the most relevant compared to power levels, but it's still not that significant compared to a series like kenichi or even ranma 1/2.
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Watch this video and skip to the 2 minute mark. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yXATNKtdYV8BruceTheBatman said:
A sword dancer: speed is equalized.
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Ayte, fair enough.
One the flip side tho, Ruby's bullets move many times faster than those bullets because she uses a sniper rifle instead of a standard one, so I still doubt Goku will be able to block it, or at least with higher diff.
Plus Ruby could always add dust to freeze Goku or the like.
One the flip side tho, Ruby's bullets move many times faster than those bullets because she uses a sniper rifle instead of a standard one, so I still doubt Goku will be able to block it, or at least with higher diff.
Plus Ruby could always add dust to freeze Goku or the like.
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Ruby still has her semblance that grants her the ability to substantially increase her speed, if she keeps playing cat and mouse Goku will tier eventually
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Speed is equalized, that means reaction feats are worthless. Speed equalization effects attacks and projectiles as well.LTB2000 said:
Also, since speed is equalized and goku is outranged, that makes the range advantage even more important since goku will never be able to close the gap on her as she runs away because they are the same speed.
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IMO tho this is a fairly bad matchup and should be switched for someone more acquainted with H2H like Yang, Mercury or Pyrrha, then
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I didn't 'try'... I voted. Whether she's faster or the same speed, the result is the same - her range is too high and goku cannot catch her if she tries to keep her distance.LTB2000 said:
'She will eventually run out of aura' - what, and goku will be able to defend forever while not taking damage until that happens? No. He will either fall to the ranged attacks or last through them and be injured enough for ruby to take the melee fight that occurs after.
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Those guards are far slower than goku which is why he was able to close in on them, the bullets also are too slow for him. Ruby is the same speed as goku and her gullets are a comparably fast speed compared to the speed both fighters are moving at, they aren't the speed of some random fodder soldiers.LTB2000 said:
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Machine gun bullets are massively slower than sniper rifles, but it's not relevant anyways. No speed feats are relevant, that's what 'speed equalized' means.LTB2000 said:
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Kid Goku hardly ever uses ki blasts. He'd much prefer to use H2H or his staff, which will be his downfall.LTB2000 said:
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It takes a lot of energy and Ruby could just dodge it. Plus she could keep running and make the distance worst.
Or better yet, shoot him while he's charging it.
Or better yet, shoot him while he's charging it.
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Any arguement for 'he could dodge the projectiles' goes x10 for kamehameha which requires a chargeup time and is announced out loud.
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You're being silly. Her bullets don't have the damage of normal bullets, they have the damage of her AP. If her AP is enough to get through his durability then he will take damage from them - that's how this works.
She doesn't need to know what he's doing the first time since she will have time to dodge it anyway - not to mention she will be shooting him as he's charging and getting free shots in. After she's dodged it once, she will know what to expect and only have an easier time dodging any others.
She doesn't need to know what he's doing the first time since she will have time to dodge it anyway - not to mention she will be shooting him as he's charging and getting free shots in. After she's dodged it once, she will know what to expect and only have an easier time dodging any others.
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Ruby's bullets are much stronger than a handcannon, since it uses dust, and it's a sniper rifle, so it'd be faster and penetrate more. It would do damage to Goku. Of course, Ruby won't know what Goku's doing, but when the blast comes, she'd be fast enough to dodge it anyways since it's speed equalized.
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Skip to 5:30 and see what goku can use with his kamehameha. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z0sgRQ8ReqMA Sword Dancer said:
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You can't increase your speed when speed is equalized, even if you use an ability to do so.LTB2000 said:
If you're talking about him being able to run while charging up, that's still not the same as being able to go jedi knight on incoming bullets with the powerpole while charging up.
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Really? Since when?A Sword Dancer said:
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Not saying that Goku increasing his speed with the Kamehameha would change anything since Ruby has her semblance and from what we've seen (or at least that video of goku vs the new RWBY trailer) Ruby uses her semblance much more frequently, has more control of it, and can use it instantly, whereas goku needs to charge his attack and it only goes in one direction
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Because it would make a mockery of the entire point of 'speed equalized' to allow people to so 'oh in that case, take my lower speed form and equalize it up so that I can use my speed boost after we've been made equal and end up faster by abusing the system'.
I don't approve of ruby gaining speed with her semblance or goku speeding up or of any sort of 'post equalized powerup' since that cheats the point of equalizing speed in the first place.
Instant transmition is teleportation, thats not speed so thats fine to use after speed is equalized since it doesn't scale up your reaction times or attack speed in a way that would let you blitz, and you still have to react in time to use the teleport.
There are a lot of other things that are screwed up with the 'speed equalized' thing too like hwhere you set the speed of projectile attacks, but at the very least it seems straightforward that you shouldn't allow characters to gain or lose speed after you've already set them to be the same specifically to avoid speed being a factor that decides the fight.
I don't approve of ruby gaining speed with her semblance or goku speeding up or of any sort of 'post equalized powerup' since that cheats the point of equalizing speed in the first place.
Instant transmition is teleportation, thats not speed so thats fine to use after speed is equalized since it doesn't scale up your reaction times or attack speed in a way that would let you blitz, and you still have to react in time to use the teleport.
There are a lot of other things that are screwed up with the 'speed equalized' thing too like hwhere you set the speed of projectile attacks, but at the very least it seems straightforward that you shouldn't allow characters to gain or lose speed after you've already set them to be the same specifically to avoid speed being a factor that decides the fight.
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If it was the flash he would start the fight in whatever speed mode he has for the tier that is being used, he wouldn't be allowed to go 'yeah speed equalized in base form ok, but lol btw I'm going to go to a higher speed anyway after the fight starts and blitz anyway'.LTB2000 said:
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