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I think Archer might have the upper hand over Natsu when it comes to intelligence, seeing as how Natsu often acts recklessly and charges into fights without thinking, which is something Archer can exploit.
 
Archer will certainly use anything he can exploit, and Eye of the Mind will help with that, but Natsu is not as reckless as he looks. It would be more correct to say he's very assertive.
 
Got it, I'm just reading his profile since im not an expert on Fairy Tale. Anyways, I don't think he has any defence against Archer's stronger moves (three wing, caladbolg, etc.), while Archer has Rho Aias which could reasonably withstand Natsu's attacks from what I've seen.
 
It is best against thrown attacks, but yes, if he's pushed into it he can weather the worst attacks using Rho Aias. The buffed Magic Resistance effect from Kanshou and Byakuya would also let him deal much better with some other attacks.
 
Yeah, I'm not seeing why Emiya can't just use Triple Crane and Natsu destroys 2/3 of the blades, only to have the last one end up in his skull
 
BakiHanma18 said:
Yeah, I'm not seeing why Emiya can't just use Triple Crane and Natsu destroys 2/3 of the blades, only to have the last one end up in his skull
Just saying, it's generally frowned upon to make a match and then start arguing for a character. There isn't a rule against it, but it makes it look like you made the match with the winner in mind so you can add it to their profile.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
BakiHanma18 said:
Yeah, I'm not seeing why Emiya can't just use Triple Crane and Natsu destroys 2/3 of the blades, only to have the last one end up in his skull
Just saying, it's generally frowned upon to make a match and then start arguing for a character. There isn't a rule against it, but it makes it look like you made the match with the winner in mind so you can add it to their profile.
It's Natsu, shouldn't matter, he's the most wanked ******* anime character ever created..
 
He isn't, not even close lol. If there's a genuine disagreement you have with the stuff on his profile, you can open up a CRT/Questions and Answer thread so it can be resolved.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
He isn't, not even close lol. If there's a genuine disagreement you have with the stuff on his profile, you can open up a CRT/Questions and Answer thread so it can be resolved.
No, I mean outside of this wiki, ******* wank and completely troll.
 
So, what's Natsu's best chance here? I could be wrong, but I think Natsu has the AP advantage, so its not insane to believe Natsu could just straight-up overpower him, right?
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
"Archer is way more likely to fight at a range and snipe Natsu"
I mean, Natsu can do the same and does in character.
Natsu is fodder, and can't fight, stop, this is a stomp in Archer's favor, in any way you put it, he'll stomp.
 
I'd like to note that while Emiya has better sight, Natsu has comparable sight, better hearing, and better smell, giving him the overall spatial awareness.
 
No, it is not valid enough. It is far from being valid. Give actual reasoning or stop using a hate boner to justify a vote, simple as that.

As for the ranged game - Archer has all the advantages to turn such a battle into his playground, not to mention that, again, Magic Resistance enhanced by Banshou and Byakuya means he can deal a lot easier with Natsu's magic. He could destroy Caster's beams who could inflict lethal damage if even one hit and that could hurt Berserk.
 
"Natsu is fodder, and can't fight, stop, this is a stomp in Archer's favor, in any way you put it, he'll stomp."

This isn't an argument. I haven't even said Natsu wins. I just disagreed with the reasons Zephyros gave for Archer winning.
 
Okay, Archer is most likely more skilled than Natsu, like the others said, he has better range, and is better than Natsu with ranged combat, good enough reasoning?
 
So Natsu might have AP advantage, can increase his AP with Rage and LFDM, and he has the spatial awareness advantage. That said, magic resistance and range still make this a tough fight.
 
... you really don't know the definition of stomp, do you? Go look at our definition of stomp. Again, your personal feelings don't matter here. Use logic and actual arguments, please.
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
Uuuh, 7-A Natsu is in DF mode Baki. Unless I am wrong, he can't or hasn't shown activating DF and LFDM at the same time.
Oh! I think you're right... I can check, but worse case for Natsu, he still has some pretty decent advantages
 
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