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Seven Stars Sword King VS Sword Saint
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Ok so what does this guy have?
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Multiple Barriers: An ability which surrounds the user with multiple barriers. Defensive barriers prevent the entry of magic power. Except for overwhelming the barrier with magical power, it is nearly impossible to break a barrier. Even the most basic barrier has more than two layers.
Blink Step: An ability which allows Hakuro to move 5 meters in any direction in an instant.
Dimensional Decapitation: An ability which can cut through space. Dim Stream Slash: A sword skill which when used, makes Hakurou's figure become indistinct, thin like air, even against those with equal perception speed to his, their perception is obstructed for a moment and before they realized it, Hakurou appears before their eyes like an optical illusion.
Blink Step: An ability which allows Hakuro to move 5 meters in any direction in an instant.
Dimensional Decapitation: An ability which can cut through space. Dim Stream Slash: A sword skill which when used, makes Hakurou's figure become indistinct, thin like air, even against those with equal perception speed to his, their perception is obstructed for a moment and before they realized it, Hakurou appears before their eyes like an optical illusion.
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Multiple Barriers: That's just what stella does.
Blink Step: Is that actual teleportation or just skill based movement?
Dimensional Decapitation: That's just what ayase does.
Dim Stream Slash: That's just trackless step but weaker. Not gonna work.
Blink Step: Is that actual teleportation or just skill based movement?
Dimensional Decapitation: That's just what ayase does.
Dim Stream Slash: That's just trackless step but weaker. Not gonna work.
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Some of Hakurou's abilities are "Skills", which are basically ability formulas branded onto the user's soul, so as far as I know, Ikki can't copy those, but since it's the WN version, I am not sure which of his moves are based on Skills and which are not.
And I might be getting ahead of myself here, but if this is part I am thinking of is the same as the Light Novel version, then Hakurou got a "presence erasure" combat technique that can even fool ESP abilities that can normally easily detect those who hide themselves with stealth-abilities or camouflage, but correct me if I am wrong incase this wasn't part of the Web Novel version.
He also got 300 of years of combat experience and a thought-speed amp that increases his thought speed (and in turn his reaction speed) by a thousand-fold.
And I might be getting ahead of myself here, but if this is part I am thinking of is the same as the Light Novel version, then Hakurou got a "presence erasure" combat technique that can even fool ESP abilities that can normally easily detect those who hide themselves with stealth-abilities or camouflage, but correct me if I am wrong incase this wasn't part of the Web Novel version.
He also got 300 of years of combat experience and a thought-speed amp that increases his thought speed (and in turn his reaction speed) by a thousand-fold.
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I don't see much Hakurou can do here. Ikki vastly outskills in hand in hand combat. And he has dealt with everything he has.
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Just read ikki's combat skill.
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It's rather hard to evaluate the relative proficiency in martial arts abilities, escpacially when the principles of them differ between different franchises. Even worse when different perception-based martial arts moves are used who haven't really collided with each other with an equivalent of the opposing franchise. It gets even more irky when something like 300 years of combat experience has to be "evaluated" into it. It's quite difficult to equalize such things.
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Looking into it, I actually don't think Trackless Step will be of much use.
Magic Perception* is by no means a normal sense, so if Hakurou actively uses that, that'll be troublesome.
Tired brain wrote Detection for some reason, ugh.
Magic Perception* is by no means a normal sense, so if Hakurou actively uses that, that'll be troublesome.
Tired brain wrote Detection for some reason, ugh.
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@NeoSuperior
300 years of experience is not quantifiable, without feats. Ikki has outdone way more years of experience in this wiki. And ikki is the same dude who did several decades worth of progress in an instant.
That's why we go by feats. Cus how much someone progresses isn't relative to the years they've lived. It can take him 300 years to learn something that takes ikki several seconds. That's why years of experience don't say much cus every verse judges years of experience differently.
@Sir
People have magic perception even in Rakudai, it doesn't work against Trackless Step, it's not like Ikki will open up with it, but just clarifying.
300 years of experience is not quantifiable, without feats. Ikki has outdone way more years of experience in this wiki. And ikki is the same dude who did several decades worth of progress in an instant.
That's why we go by feats. Cus how much someone progresses isn't relative to the years they've lived. It can take him 300 years to learn something that takes ikki several seconds. That's why years of experience don't say much cus every verse judges years of experience differently.
@Sir
People have magic perception even in Rakudai, it doesn't work against Trackless Step, it's not like Ikki will open up with it, but just clarifying.
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Magic Perception in Rakudai is nothing like in Slime World.
Trackless Step pretty much works by moving and breathing in such a way that you become a neutral stimulus that doesn't draw the attention of the opponent because, as the technique very well puts it, our brain only focuses on some of the information we perceive because we can't process all of it.
Magic Perception works by calculating the interaction of magic particles with light, sound and such to get an idea of the world beyond your senses. There's no blind spot to slip through either because all of the information is being perceived at all times all at once without focusing on any specfic part of it. The characters even have information manip resistance because the data overload would kill a human but they take it casually.
Trackless Step pretty much works by moving and breathing in such a way that you become a neutral stimulus that doesn't draw the attention of the opponent because, as the technique very well puts it, our brain only focuses on some of the information we perceive because we can't process all of it.
Magic Perception works by calculating the interaction of magic particles with light, sound and such to get an idea of the world beyond your senses. There's no blind spot to slip through either because all of the information is being perceived at all times all at once without focusing on any specfic part of it. The characters even have information manip resistance because the data overload would kill a human but they take it casually.
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I see, that's precisely the counter i guess. Trackless step works because the brain doesn't focus cus it would burn itself out. If they can process everything then yes, but as i said, it's not like Ikki opens up with it.
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I know, I was just bringing it up. Not sure how much he uses it, so I'll wait for anyone knowledgable to answer that.
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Question. Which feats do we go by for pre-SSSFA Kurogane?
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It should be linked on his profile.
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Magic Perception is standard fare. Proficient users can utlize it across tens, sometimes even hundreds of kilometers. So you can bet that Hakurou uses it, IIRC even on by default or at the latest activated upon first or second thought.
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Just stuff like Perfect Vision, Insight, etcKageSakaDark said:
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Trackless Step really isn't doing anything to someone with both Enhanced Senses and Extrasensory Perception.
Also, Hakurou's getting passive radiation manipulation.
Also, Hakurou's getting passive radiation manipulation.
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No, it's going to both. Elizhaa found evidence for it in the WN, too.GLHF22 said:
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Hakurou also has Dimensional Decpitation, which severs space. Dim Stream Slash warps your perception of him, and he comes like air. Even if Ikki could fight this, it also serves as Attack Reflection.
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Ikki's perfect vision served to find out about conceptual stealth so like...Yeah.GLHF22 said:
Also Dim Stream Slash seems like just Trackless Step which ikki negs hard.
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I still don't know if Hakurou can use Haze or not in the WN version. Does anyone know?
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It's not stealth, it's quite literally Perception Manip + Ilusion.
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Stella kind of does those both.Milly Rocking Bandit said:
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Very good enhanced senses can counter perception manip
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You need to understand that this attack negs Magic Sense, which earlier was stated to neg Trackless Step.
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^^Oblivion Of The Endless said:
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Basically this ^
What's that to do with magic sense?
What's that to do with magic sense?
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Dim Stream Slash: A sword skill which when used, makes Hakurou's figure become indistinct, thin like air, even against those with equal perception speed to his, their perception is obstructed for a moment and before they realized it, Hakurou appears before their eyes like an optical illusion.
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Hakurou w/ Thought acceleration x 1000000 + Illusion + Perception Manipulation + Spacial Cut that adds another layer of perception manipulation w/ attack reflection + combat applicable blink + Magic perception that covers 360 degree with more than hundreds of kilometer range
I think Ikki can't handle those hax in this key
I think Ikki can't handle those hax in this key
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I don't think Hakurou in particular can use Magic Sense/Magic Perception at the level of "hundreds of kilometer range", even EoS, but yea, his actual range should still be more than enough for anything that's relevant for this battle.
