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Mm, the point is there's little info about the atomize aura to confirm whether summoning Pbaha cause instant death or anything, so at best I'd assume it works like poison debuff and would not contribute much to the fight unless Gran has a way to drag down the battle, otherwise Pbaha probably has to strike Miden directly for complete atomization at worst. And since I'm not fan of Precure and just took a quick peek into Miden's profile, I'll be a Gran fanboy and give him a vote if I pretend that Miden's possible feats are non-existed simply because Gran can hold his own against Miden mano-a-mano in that scenario and having one extra Bahamut help a lot.
 
Atomization treated like poison should be game mechanics like how Petrification in this game just basically doesn't make you move and that's it, it's Atomization after all, it kills by default.
 
Simply put, I think the atomize aura did not kill anything right away but at much slower rate with obvious visual (flesh start decaying) and actual effect (nausea, stun, weakened reflex or something like that, lethal if the summoning sustain for for more time), direct clash with PBaha or eat his beam is what instakill by default.

Edit: And since both opponent move at FTL, time flows much slower so Miden can still put up a hell of a fight until the effect of PBaha become lethal or until his one of his attacks connect.
 
Not only does Captain's memory resistance seem weak enough that Miden can bypass it, even if he can't, the summons are still fair game.
 
Is it that weak though? The last time a memory stealing got him but failed, the culprit is a primal beast with fate manip that can severe bonds, and I don't think that ability is weak at all.

Edit: though, Gran can literally call Za Warudo so do Miden's time manip can do something equavilent or he's just going to be helpless?
 
That's pretty fair argument. It's kinda slow but kills nonetheless. We just ignore some advantages by moving close or faster than light. Resistance from Magus was pretty weak, though I don't know other memories Hax.
 
In chapter 66-69, there is Kikuri who has memories hax, severing fated connections between people for the detail. Though, there are some characters from both skydwellers and primals stay safe from it's bond severing hax, so after some thoughts I think this only categorized as fate manip instead of memories manip and Gran already has resistance to it, him being a Singularity, so yeah, if Miden memories hax Gran my boi will lose.
 
Miden scales to equalising the time flows of universes, resists Time Stop that works on people with baseline resistance (there may be a third layer to that) and can also start time if someone stops it.
 
After, again, more thoughts, Gran has various tool to decrease Miden's stastistic, mainly from sub sub skills like Mist, Def Breach and Arrow Rain, also as Guider to the Eternal Edge, he has access to all awakened Revenant Weapon, some of them has simliar stat debuff from their strongest attacks, and those debuffs stack up to 50% which is big deal to Miden unless he is at his full potential, I suppose. Plus some class give access to illusion skills, so I'll hold my vote for Gran as the time being.
 
One Rift Spear give Partial Reflection, Two Crown Bow widening Gran's attack range and can shoot through space and time to reach it's target, Three Tiger Axe has Defense Reduction, Four Sky Blade has Speed Amplification, Five Soul Staff give Healing and Regenerationn, Six Ruins Fist let him dodge direct attacks and counter right away, Seven Star Sword can nullify 30% damage Gran takes, Eight Soul Katana randomly reduce CD of one of four skill available, Nine Realm Harp also offer Healing plus it's increase his chance of landing debuffs, and Ten Wolf Gun provides Power Amplification. Guider to the Eternal Edge possibly has access to all of these without even a mainhand and summon, plus with sub skills, stalling Miden until he reached critical state with Bahamut's atomization aura is possible too.
 
Just to clarify. Pbahamuts Atomization aura i love to cite is his Ragnarok field. The fact that it simply slowly kills the group can be literally cited back to Danchou resisting it.

Danchou summons Pbahamut and he automatically power nulls and atomize Midens. If he survives that then Bahamut might just sever Midens Fate and erases him. How good is Midens resistances? If they are below planetary then Bahamut might just madness hax with his wing flapping alone.

While Bahamut keeps Midens occupied, Danchou just statamps himself into oblivion, with 9x speed boosts, myriads of barriers and forcefields while debuffing Miden into the ground, while Danchou gets any weapon that deals with it sweeftly, like Gabriels Wand or Grimmnirs Harp, while spamming Midens with obscene amounts of status effects
 
Now thinking about it, Alter Ego Conjurer has access to Gabu Staff which can purify all impurity, which mean ghost being like Miden will be under huge disadvantage?
 
First Witch said:
Just to clarify. Pbahamuts Atomization aura i love to cite is his Ragnarok field. The fact that it simply slowly kills the group can be literally cited back to Danchou resisting it.

Danchou summons Pbahamut and he automatically power nulls and atomize Midens. If he survives that then Bahamut might just sever Midens Fate and erases him. How good is Midens resistances? If they are below planetary then Bahamut might just madness hax with his wing flapping alone.

While Bahamut keeps Midens occupied, Danchou just statamps himself into oblivion, with 9x speed boosts, myriads of barriers and forcefields while debuffing Miden into the ground, while Danchou gets any weapon that deals with it sweeftly, like Gabriels Wand or Grimmnirs Harp, while spamming Midens with obscene amounts of status effects
Nah, Miden has resistance to Existence Erasure and Mind Manipulation, so I doubt those hax you mentioned above would work even if Gran unchain PBaha somehow. Him going toe-to-toe with Miden is a possible though, and atomic hax set a good time limit for the fight.
 
He has no resistance to Fate hax and Madness though, but madness is a subset of mind and bla. It all depends on the strength of the resistances.

And even if it survives this, Miden is still power nulled and forced to wrestle with Captain physically, who has the time to use all his amps while Bahamut keeps Miden preoccupied.
 
That's my point, either of Gran's ultimate forms (Guider to the Eternal Edge and Alter Ego Conjurer) has access to various buff so if we use the "only bring 4 skills" he still gain the upperhand :p letting him nuke Miden down with a huge ammount of sub skill and class skill is too unfair this time to me-
 
Cataconic most likely. Why is it supposed to leave you with severe depression in the first place, its not emphatic manipulation lol.

So yeah, Miden ain't resisting Bahamut just flapping his wings, he dosnt resist getting atomisized and power nulled and Miden dosnt resist Bahamut ripping through his fate to make him unable to exist afterwards.

Captain takes this quiet comfortably
 
It did not stated clear which type of insanity, so I guess just cataconic. Though, did Miden start using bizarre strategy or showing ridiculous power when depressing?
 
Depression is a ridicously specific type of madness to assuming it when Bahamut was stated to literally drive people into insanity is kind of wrong.
 
Guider to the Eternal Edge has every Revenant Weapon at their full power though, and all of them are stated to pierce the stars, thus his attack range is very wide and should have little issue dealing with duplicates of Miden, plus he can combine them into Reginleiv Zenith.

Edit: Checked the profile, so, destroying duplicates weakening Miden, correct? If he do so, wouldn't Miden be weakening to the point he can no longer avoid Gran and PBaha's attacks, thus get erased by Bahamut?
 
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