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Dante's Age

DarkGrath

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This is a topic I only thought to ask about recently.

Just earlier today, I was looking through Dante's profile (since he's my husbando no homo tho ) and I noticed that Dante's age is still listed purely in estimates past a certain point. Which is fine, mind you, but it reminded me of something. A YouTuber by the name of The4thSnake attempted to evaluate Dante's real age a while back and actually came to some pretty accurate, well evidenced conclusions with only mild assumptions made. Here are the two videos he made on the topic:

https://youtu.be/tMQNwgRMznE

https://youtu.be/AVMslXAgABI

The first link was his original theory, which is now long outdated (and even if it wasn't, it makes a few too many assumptions to be accurate). The second video continues from the first, addressing the timeline change and release of DMC5 in order to fix up the theory in a way that seems perfectly reasonable to me.

I was wondering if, using these lines of logic, Dante's age on his profile could be changed to definitive answers rather than estimates. For simplicities sake, these are the changes I suggest:

DMC3: 19

DMC1: 28

Animated Series: 34

DMC2: 35

DMC4: 38

DMC5: 44
 
Dunno

Matier stated that DMC2 happened exactly 10 years before 5

Nico stated that Dante met Patty (Anime events) "around" 10 years before 5

Which makes me believe, going by the fact that Matier is reliable while Nico isn't, that DMC2 really happened 10 years before, and the Anime is around this but it could have several months between them, making Dante possibly 1 year younger

So anime should be 33 and 2 should be 34

I also know that 5 is 6 years after 4
 
We know that DMC5 is exactly 10 years after the anime because of Patty's age. Patty was 8 in the anime, and her 18th birthday was at the beginning of DMC5, so it's definitely exactly 10 years.

There isn't any reason why Matier would be reliable. She's literally hundreds of years old, so she likely has a failing memory, which would explain any inconsistencies.

Could you clarify on 5 being exactly 6 years after 4? I don't remember where that was stated.
 
I think it was on DMC Wiki, where I was talking about Dante's age with LegionZero, I can't search it right now but it was something like 6 years after 4, I"ll find it later

Edit - Here: "Before the Nightmare's prologue is 5 years after 4. Nicos said that year had passed since she met Nero and he lost his arm in that same chapter. So DMC5 is 6 years after 4"


Also, I didn't found the "10 years" statement from the Anime, lol I was sure that it was stated somewhere, but if the 10 years gap is assumed thanks to Patty being 18 in 5 and looking 8 in the Anime, then it's not right, since Patty's age in the Anime was never stated, she's also likely younger than eight
 
Wasn't it stated that she was 8 years old? I've seen several sites mention it, and I'm almost positive I remember it myself, though now that you mention it I'm not sure.
 
Well, the wiki doesn't say nothing about it and it's one of the best sites for DMC

Dante's age is really hard to define lol, but Patty is likely around 8, so with the statement of not, the Anime is around 10 years before 5

However, considering the difference in power that Anime Dante and Novel 2 Dante have, and the fact that he still uses his DMC1 costume, I would say that it's more than 10 years, which would make Patty with around 6 or 7 years, which makes sense. And DMC2 is 10 years before 5, just like Matier said
 
Again, that was only an estimation from Matier. Matier even admits herself in that same section that she has a bad memory, and "10 years" is often used to refer to any time around 10 years ago.

Also, I was able to find a source that stated she was 8 years old, though again I don't remember if this was ever stated in the series itself so I'll have to check.

On top of that, while this is admittedly a bit more subjective, Patty definitely doesn't seem to be around 6 years old in the anime. Honestly speaking, purely by appearance she seems to be around 9 to 10, anything below 8 or maybe 7 seems to really be pushing it.
 
Oh, so you remember the section ? Because I don't remember exactly what Matier said, but if she said that she have a bad memory, anything up to 10 years is valid, which makes Dante's age impossible to define during Anime, Novel and 2, I mean, Patty is a child but since it's a anime is hard to define her age exactly just by looking, could be from 6 to 10 years, making 5 around 8-12 years after the Anime, with 2 and Novel between that

However, I think 8 years for Patty is the best bet

After this, it was stated that Dante was close to 40 (I think ?) in 4 and DMC5 is 6 years after that, so he being 36-39 in 4 and 42-45 in 5 makes sense
 
Alright, alright. I mainly made this thread to see if we could just implement a definitive statistic for Dante's age. But if it's still too debatable for any definitive statistic to be valid, estimates are fine. I'll just write up the evidence I think is definitive enough for his age.

EDIT: There are still some definitive statistics for his age I would definitely agree with, such as DMC4 Dante being 38. This is based off:

1: Developer comments stating that Nero in DMC4 is the same age as Dante in DMC3

2: The fact that, going off of the timeline, Nero was born sometime very close around the events of DMC3.

Considering that Nero went from being a newborn in DMC3 (or at least around that time) to being DMC3 Dante's age in DMC4, that means Dante's age must have exactly doubled. So if he was 19 in DMC3 (which is already on his profile) he'd be 38 in DMC4.

If the statement about DMC5 being 6 years after 4 is correct, that would put DMC5 Dante at 44. If Patty's age range is correct, that would make Anime Dante 34.
 
DarkGrath said:
Alright, alright. I mainly made this thread to see if we could just implement a definitive statistic for Dante's age. But if it's still too debatable for any definitive statistic to be valid, estimates are fine. I'll just write up the evidence I think is definitive enough for his age.
EDIT: There are still some definitive statistics for his age I would definitely agree with, such as DMC4 Dante being 38. This is based off:

1: Developer comments stating that Nero in DMC4 is the same age as Dante in DMC3

2: The fact that, going off of the timeline, Nero was born sometime very close around the events of DMC3.

Considering that Nero went from being a newborn in DMC3 (or at least around that time) to being DMC3 Dante's age in DMC4, that means Dante's age must have exactly doubled. So if he was 19 in DMC3 (which is already on his profile) he'd be 38 in DMC4.

If the statement about DMC5 being 6 years after 4 is correct, that would put DMC5 Dante at 44. If Patty's age range is correct, that would make Anime Dante 34.
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I agree with this

38 for DMC4, 44 for DMC5, 19 for DMC3 and 28 for DMC1

What about Anime, Novel and 2 ? I think we can say Patty is 8 as a safe bet, this makes Anime Dante 34, and Novel&2 would be around this
 
Speaking of which, does the series mentions how long Dante's life span is? Demons are ageless are can live for thousands of years but Dante seems to age like a normal human.
 
It's been stated that Dante can choose to live in either his human or demon form (Devil Trigger). In his Devil Trigger, he ages like a demon (that is to say, pretty much not at all) and in his human form he ages like a normal person.
 
That's..... Pretty weird way of explaining it. Dante only use his demon form in fights so he pretty much has the life span of a normal human.
 
jeez, I always feel so appreciated on this DMC threads
 
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand here I am again

Well, some things to consider:

First, as Zero showed, those developers aren't always that reliable, so Nero's age might not be 19 in DMC4, it was stated in Deadly Fortune that he's 17

But Dante, Deadly Fortune is non cano

Are you sure ? It was never stated that is non canon, what happens is that many points in the novel goes against the actual game (DMC4), being obviuosly discarted by default, but some things from the novel were canon like Nero's Blue DMC neon, which appears in DMC5. So it's canon until goes against something from the game or series logic, like Dante needing Dreadnaught against The Savior and some other things, but Nero's age should be fine, it goes against nothing besides one developer

Which would make DMC4 Dante 19+17 = 36 years old in DMC4, still "close to 40" tho

DMC5 being 6 years after, makes 42, which kinda makes sense with his look, and Nero would be 23
 
Eh, I'm not sure.

Normally in-series info takes precedence over developer statements, since it can be assumed that the developers were simply mistaken or misremembered. But in this case, it's just another case of the Deadly Fortune novel contradicting the original series. It's already been shown several times to be inconsistent and unreliable, so why should it be used over developer statements?
 
I am on Dante's side here. Those developers are contradicting themselves and not a reliable source, I mean come on, they are not sure if 4 or 2 happened first and they think Lady is like 20 years younger than Dante.

I would say Dante being 42 and Nero being 22-23 makes sense.

Lady should also be pushing her 40's by now and Trish would be 15 years old lol.
 
Those aren't reallt good examples. They aren't confused at all about the placement of 2 and 4, they only changed it once before the release of DMC5 in order to coincide with their changed timeline. Also, this doesn't affect the age of Nero in 4 or the age of Dante in 3, so it's an inconsequential change to what's been suggested.

Also, Lady being "20 years younger than Dante" is purely through how they haven't updated her appearance much, and not due to her actual age. So again, it's not a very applicable example.

Remember, rhey are still developers. Outside of explicitly, backed up canonical evidence, that's about as reliable as a statement can be. The only thing contradicting the statements at all is one source that is outside of the established canon and which makes several comtradictions and inconsistencies with the main story. It's not nearly as reliable of a source.

Also, it should be noted that Vergil's opening text in the DMC4 cutscene says that it happened "A few decades ago". If the timeline placement I've suggested is correct, at most this would have happened 20 years ago, which is satisfactory and consistent with what we are given. If we go with Deadly Fortune's age range for Nero, at most this would have happened 18 years ago, which definitely doesn't fit in the range of "A few decades".

The Deadly Fortune statements about Nero's age come from a source outside of the established canon that has already demonstrated great inconsistencies with the main series. The statement about Nero's age itself contradicts both developer statements and in-game evidence, both of which are far more reliable. Therefore, we should not consider the statements about Nero being 17 in Deadly Fortune to be valid.
 
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