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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 12

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Elizhaa said:
There also a clear Memory manipulation resistance statement that those with Unique Skill resists Memory manipulation extracting if they surpassed A rank as their memories are protected by their souls. (I guess Unconventional resistances). There is a clear statement that it won't work on US SKills Users too. (Both are stated in Chapter 194).
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This is from a while ago, but I think you got the chapter number wrong here since I can't find either of the statement in that chapter. I do remember a similar (to the first one in the quote) statement for the LN but that was explaining the memory recording functions of the Spiritual Body - hence not soul. So this is a likely suspect for "being translated wrong". Do you know what the correct chapter is?
 
Slime is apparently the top-selling media franchise in Japan for the first half of 2019, earning 2.8 billion yen.

As usual Slime's popularity is insane.
 
Yea I saw that some time ago. Slime is also generally the first ever manga adaptation of a LN (and, by extention, of a series originally running as a WN on syousetsuka ni narou) that managed to regularily stay in the top 10 manga per series rankings directly competing and even beating several Weekly Jump Series in sales.
 
NeoSuperior said:
Elizhaa said:
There also a clear Memory manipulation resistance statement that those with Unique Skill resists Memory manipulation extracting if they surpassed A rank as their memories are protected by their souls. (I guess Unconventional resistances). There is a clear statement that it won't work on US SKills Users too. (Both are stated in Chapter 194).
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This is from a while ago, but I think you got the chapter number wrong here since I can't find either of the statement in that chapter. I do remember a similar (to the first one in the quote) statement for the LN but that was explaining the memory recording functions of the Spiritual Body - hence not soul. So this is a likely suspect for "being translated wrong". Do you know what the correct chapter is?
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Oh, my bad. I probably press 9 by mistake. It should be chapter 184.

Chapter 184 WN

I considered killing the "Rat" then and there, and extracting his memory.
However, individuals surpassing A rank have high resistances, and taking memories protected by the soul seemed difficult.
And as for those in possession of Ultimate Skills, it'd fail without a doubt.
 
@Milly Sao is #23 on this list.

The list is: 1 Slime

2 Idolmaster

3 Kingdom

4 Bohemian Rhapsody

5 The Promised Neverland

6 One Piece

7 Detective Conan

8 Kamen Rider

9 Love Live

10 Oshiri Tantei

11 Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai

12 5-toubun no Hanayome

13 Gundam

14 Boku no Hero Academia

15 Hypnosis Mic: Division Rap Battle

16 Touken Ranbu

17 Shingeki no Kyojin

18 Bang Dream

19 Haikyuu

20 Monogatari series

21 Fate series

22 Dragon Ball

23 Sword Art Online

24 The Rising of the Shield Hero

25 Gintama

26 Zombieland Saga

27 Kimetsu no Yaiba

28 Golden Kamuy

29 Nanatsu no Taizai

30 Code Blue live action series
 
IIRC for whatever reason SAO is seperated from SAO:progressive, but I am note sure if it's the same list that does that, or if it is a different one.
 
All this really tell is what's popular right now, to say which franchise has made more than the other, would have to look at all time totals, not sure where to find that.

One piece is probably pretty high on that along with dragon ball.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
@Elizhaa Here
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Thanks :)

This list is nice; I really never expected the verse's popularity to blow up that much when I started the series months ago!
 
Slime #1 on selling media franchise? IMPOSSIBLE, i mean this is the first time a fkin isekai anime got even top 10
 
And again, also the first time in manga history that a LN series managed to get "that far". And a syousetsuka ni narou WN at that. I can't help but think that fans of "traditional LN" might even be slightly upset about this.

Also people always say "Taiki Kawakami" when talking about the mangaka for the manga version of Slime, instead of just shortening it to "Kawakami" because that name seems reserved for the author of the objectively thickest LNs in existence (Owari no Chronicles, Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon, etc). I wonder if Slime's growing popularity will be able to change this "uspoken rule" at some point.
 
It's weird though how little of that popularity spread over to the West. The one month difference between the end of the anime run, and the LN vol. 5 release in English might have "killed" it for the West in a sense. If it had been released a day or two before or after EP23 or the other ones, then it might still have sparked some interest. In the end the anime also lacked a "controversy". As they say any kind of attention is useful in business, even negative one, which is why Goblin Slayer became so widely watched. All because of the so-called "rape scene" in the first episode.
 
Also forgot my Ultimate Skills Resistance blog.

Something I also wanna mention. In the instances of a non-US working on a US user (Dark Nebula chains working on Milim), could it be due to the fact that US users, as long as they've surpassed the Laws of the World, can effect other US with lower abilities?
 
That seems to be the case, since Zegion could also use his Dimension Ray and a multitude of other abilities on US users and Dino used magic against Zero.
 
Okay, so I'm not losing it.

What I think is, they do resist the lower skills, that's undeniable. However, if you surpass the Laws of the World, and are stronger than your opponent that has done the same, then the resistance is not nullified, but overpowered.

That make sense?
 
That sounds pretty consistent yes. Most times that someone affected an US user with a lower ability they were comparable or superior to the US user.
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Also forgot my Ultimate Skills Resistance blog.
Something I also wanna mention. In the instances of a non-US working on a US user (Dark Nebula chains working on Milim), could it be due to the fact that US users, as long as they've surpassed the Laws of the World, can effect other US with lower abilities?
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It was stated that the Skill has be of Ultimate Class to works on Ultimate Skills users in chapter 191 Wn which is why Chloe's Inifinite Prison and Absolute Severance unique skill worked on Veldora. Its a key reason why Sealing resistance is not included in the US resistance.
 
Alright, sounds good. The existence of Psuedo-Ultimate Skills/Ultimate Gift also rectifies this, I believe. Just something that was looming over my head and thought it was pretty inconsistent.
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Alright, sounds good. The existence of Psuedo-Ultimate Skills/Ultimate Gift also rectifies this, I believe. Just something that was looming over my head and thought it was pretty inconsistent.
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Yeah, this is why Ultimate Gifts work on US Users.
 
I don't agree with that statement of US users not resisting Sealing. Lets look at a few things:

  • Chloe was a Hero, that alone makes her very existence overpowered.
  • Veldora was not serious in that fight whatsoever, in fact he was more attracted to her if anything, and by the time he GOT serious, he was hit with Infinite Prison and Absolute Severance.
 
The more we talk about it the more it sounds like Higher-Dimensional Existence and that those who have the ability to affect via Unique Skills / Unique Gifts / Pseudo-Ultimate Skills all have Higher-Dimensional Manipulation. Of course it only sounds similar in structure, but...

...actually I can go even further. I remember statements about how the world is structured. Something about this world having an "additional layer" to it, which enables Spiritual Beings to exist. Wouldn't that be a "4th spatial dimension" that's more something akin to a "phase" axis? Oh no, don't tempt me to seriously follow this train of thought any further... don't do it...
 
Ok I'll stop you then. Those descriptions are too vague to be considered Higher-D. Just look at it as another layer just like you could say there are physical and spiritual layers.
 
<divclass="quote">Milly Rocking Bandit wrote:
I don't agree with that statement of US users not resisting Sealing. Lets look at a few things:

  • Chloe was a Hero, that alone makes her very existence overpowered.
  • Veldora was not serious in that fight whatsoever, in fact he was more attracted to her if anything, and by the time he GOT serious, he was hit with Infinite Prison and Absolute Severance.
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She is just a Demi-God but doesn't make her overpowred. She was just comparable to a True Dragons like Veldora.

Rimuru said Ultimate Class skill can be beat US Users depending on the situation. Yeah, Veldora was not serious at first or going all at first but he still stated that the hero (chloe) has one of a kind Unique skill in Chapter 4. Rimuru later clarified her unique skill where of the Ultimate Class.
 
Well, as me and WHY said earlier, if she's at least comparable, that's the first requirement.

And are you saying her Unique Skill is of Ultimate Class or??
 
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