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Put simply, the idea was put forth that the higher echelons of our Regenerationn system don't make a whole lot of sense and thus should be revised. This thread is made in the hopes of making a simplified place of discussion. Note that this is not for verse-specific examples and rather as the guideline for all verses. With this in mind, the following are the arguments for removing or keeping our standards, and possible fixes.
Arguments Against High-Godly
Arguments Against True-Godly
If we decide to remove one or both of the Regenerationn tiers in question (for the record I do agree with removing them), here are some suggested alternatives gathered from the last thread.
I would like it to be known that this thread is not for further disorganized debate but rather a simple compilation of opinions and views to decide where to go from here. I will be removing any comments that are off-topic or needlessly argumentative. With that in mind, discuss. Objective, clear-cut opinions are appreciated.
Continued from here.
Put simply, the idea was put forth that the higher echelons of our Regenerationn system don't make a whole lot of sense and thus should be revised. This thread is made in the hopes of making a simplified place of discussion. Note that this is not for verse-specific examples and rather as the guideline for all verses. With this in mind, the following are the arguments for removing or keeping our standards, and possible fixes.
Arguments Against High-Godly
- High-Godly Regenerationn is the only Regenerationn in our tiering system that focuses on place of Regenerationn as opposed to damage regenerated from
- The ability is, essentially, a simple combo of Mid-Godly and the ability to survive in a void rather than any actual higher-tier Regenerationn and thus shouldn't affect the character's own Regenerationn rating at all
- Even if a character cannot regenerate from the destruction of whatever universe he's in, that doesn't display a lower form of Regenerationn rather than it displays an inability to survive in a timeless void.
Yeah, Body. Body mind and soul Body mind, soul and your house Seems weird.'' | ||
~ Amexim |
- True-Godly simply denotes the ability to regenerate from 1-A damage, however in theory this no more destroys every essence of your being than a High 1-B also destroying your mind, body, soul, and concept, ergo it is not superior
- True-Godly is flawed in that it is the only Regenerationn based purely on tier rather than damage regenerated from
- The ability to regenerate from absolute nothingness, including the void of time and space, should be superior to simply regenerating from mind-body-and-soul erasure.
- Not all characters can regenerate in a timeless void, ergo High-Godly is superior.
- True-Godly is Regenerationn from a point beyond dimensional existence, and therefore carries somewhat more weight with it when you regenerate from it.
- True-Godly is essentially smurf-based regen for those who can survive a 1-A and is thus useful for documenting purposes.
If we decide to remove one or both of the Regenerationn tiers in question (for the record I do agree with removing them), here are some suggested alternatives gathered from the last thread.
- High-Godly can become specifically conceptual erasure, where Mind-Body-Soul resides purely in Mid-Godly. The issue with this is specifying what kind of concept you're regenerating from- Type 2 would be favorable in this scenario. Basically, this follows the assumption that Mid-Godly leaves "backups" in the form of your concept in the multiverse that you can regenerate from, however characters with Type 2 Conceptual Manipulation would be able to destroy this in a way others could not, thus requiring you to have a better form of Regenerationn. Quoting Andy:
Good enough conceptual erasure wouldn't just be a more powerful EE it would mean reality has been fundamentally altered in a way to not contain you any more, imagining you shouldn't be possible, sentences wouldn't exist that reference the erased person and the person not only never existed but doesn't have the ability to ever exist. | ||
~ Andy |
- High-Godly could alternatively be replaced with regenerating from total existence erasure across time. The issue here is that for many time is an irrelevant construct and this also does not refer to some greater form of damage regenerated from. The idea is that you can destroy them from the point they came into existence and ergo they would be unable to regenerate back.
- High-Godly can simply be removed rather than replaced by anything at all. Or, phrasing it like many have, combine it with Mid-Godly and simply refer to it as "Godly".
- High-Godly becomes a catchall to anything Mid-Godly doesn't cover, quoting Anton, "Perhaps we change High-Godly to being capable to regen at any existential level (conceptual, metaphysical, temporal, principal, spiritual, etc.)"
- True-Godly remains 1-A but requires specific erasure of a Type 1 Concept. Merely being erased or hit by a 1-A and regenerating is not enough- a 1-A would specifically need to destroy your concept.
I would like it to be known that this thread is not for further disorganized debate but rather a simple compilation of opinions and views to decide where to go from here. I will be removing any comments that are off-topic or needlessly argumentative. With that in mind, discuss. Objective, clear-cut opinions are appreciated.