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So, I've been planning to make this revision since late 2018, but because school is a b*tch, and I'm lazy AF, I didn't do so. Now that it's summer, I have all the time in the world to waste without any repercussions whatsoever for the next 3 months, so I can finally make this CRT. Let's get started:
Dio's 2-A Tier and Justificatio
So let us debunk his 2-A AP justification bit by bit, which contains a ridiculous amount of misinformation:
Multiverse level+ with Reality Overwrite (Overwrote the abilities of Johnny's Tusk Act 4 and Giorno's GER. Is also more powerful than Pucci's MiH and Valentine's D4C. Was overwriting the entire JoJo reality, which has been stated to contain an infinite number of parallel universes. Overwrote Funny Valentine's existence so that he no longer existed anywhere in the multiverse, completely nullifying D4C)
Also, another thing that was used in the past to further justify TWoH's Tier was the fact that the Holy Corpse was previously rated as a 2-A shield that Valentine had, and since Dio erased valentine from infinite worlds, Dio would be able to erase infinite 2-A shields across a 2-A multiverse. To quickly get this out of the way:
This is a bit complicated, but I believe that TWoH should be split into two keys:
The first one would be Base TWoH, and he has a Creation Feat:
Here you can see the description of the arena he created
This arena right here, as stated, contains a huge Black Sun. There are some lights in the sky, but it's unclear if they are Stars, other Meteorites described again in the same picture or just Dots of Light that are there for show.
Either way, it's High 4-C or 4-A.
Onto the second key, it would be where he absorbed 34 to 35 of the Sinners' Souls:
Throughout the entirety of the game, it's stated that with all of the 36 souls, he would be able to Overwrite the Main World into his own reality (though whether this process would be instantaneous or over time, it's not mentioned).
Still, Dio never got all of the 36 souls, as it's heavily implied that Jotaro was one of them, and I tried counting the other souls he had absorbed: they weren't 36.
Regardless, the souls he had absorbed made him completely re-charge TWoH's s ability, allowing him to warp the scenario in the 3rd video at 1:25:53). Here, you can see how he warped the whole map and background to resemble his previously mentioned Over Heaven Arena. However, it's unclear whether he warped just on a 4-A scale or if he warped the whole universe. It's best to discuss its true power in this very CRT
Regardless, TWoH's RO is definitely more powerful than his previous state.
Other abilities
There are some issues with other things in HA Dio's profiles, such as some of his abilities/resistances:
Small Additions
Here's the whole Story mode of the Game (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Eyes of Heaven), divided into 3 videos. By watching them, you can understand the whole situation.
Sometimes in what I wrote above, you can see me mentioning "1st" "2nd" and"3rd" videos. I'm referring precisely to those ones, which I'll now link and divide:
Dio's 2-A Tier and Justificatio
So let us debunk his 2-A AP justification bit by bit, which contains a ridiculous amount of misinformation:
Multiverse level+ with Reality Overwrite (Overwrote the abilities of Johnny's Tusk Act 4 and Giorno's GER. Is also more powerful than Pucci's MiH and Valentine's D4C. Was overwriting the entire JoJo reality, which has been stated to contain an infinite number of parallel universes. Overwrote Funny Valentine's existence so that he no longer existed anywhere in the multiverse, completely nullifying D4C)
- Overwrote the abilities of Johnny's Tusk Act 4 and Giorno's GER
- Is also more powerful than Pucci's MiH and Valentine's D4C
- Was overwriting the entire JoJo reality, which has been stated to contain an infinite number of parallel universes
- Overwrote Funny Valentine's existence so that he no longer existed anywhere in the multiverse, completely nullifying D4C)
Also, another thing that was used in the past to further justify TWoH's Tier was the fact that the Holy Corpse was previously rated as a 2-A shield that Valentine had, and since Dio erased valentine from infinite worlds, Dio would be able to erase infinite 2-A shields across a 2-A multiverse. To quickly get this out of the way:
- The Holy Corpse isn't 2-A anymore
- Valentine never had any Corpse Part in the game nor in his battle against Dio, let alone the full Holy Corpse
- As far as I know, the Holy Corpse only exists in the main world, and there are no alternate versions of it/its parts in the other worlds.
This is a bit complicated, but I believe that TWoH should be split into two keys:
The first one would be Base TWoH, and he has a Creation Feat:
Here you can see the description of the arena he created
This arena right here, as stated, contains a huge Black Sun. There are some lights in the sky, but it's unclear if they are Stars, other Meteorites described again in the same picture or just Dots of Light that are there for show.
Either way, it's High 4-C or 4-A.
Onto the second key, it would be where he absorbed 34 to 35 of the Sinners' Souls:
Throughout the entirety of the game, it's stated that with all of the 36 souls, he would be able to Overwrite the Main World into his own reality (though whether this process would be instantaneous or over time, it's not mentioned).
Still, Dio never got all of the 36 souls, as it's heavily implied that Jotaro was one of them, and I tried counting the other souls he had absorbed: they weren't 36.
Regardless, the souls he had absorbed made him completely re-charge TWoH's s ability, allowing him to warp the scenario in the 3rd video at 1:25:53). Here, you can see how he warped the whole map and background to resemble his previously mentioned Over Heaven Arena. However, it's unclear whether he warped just on a 4-A scale or if he warped the whole universe. It's best to discuss its true power in this very CRT
Regardless, TWoH's RO is definitely more powerful than his previous state.
Other abilities
There are some issues with other things in HA Dio's profiles, such as some of his abilities/resistances:
- Time-Stop that works on people with infinite speed: Dio never time-stops in the game's cutscenes, and he only does that sometimes during gameplay, and when he does, it's only to move around or to get close to the opponent during his Ultimate Attack. In addition, Dio never really canonically time-stops anyone with actual infinite speed like GER, and if it were to, you could argue it being Game-Mechanic.
- "Indefinite" Time-Stop: Again, a lot of people, even outside of the wiki say that Dio's time-stop doesn't last only 5-11 seconds, but it can last as much as he wants to. I'm almost certainly convinced that this is just a rumor: nowhere in gameplay or in HA Dio's power description it's ever stated that his time-stop ha no limits, or that he modified his Stand to have no such limits. I even checked the Jojo Wiki, and there it's actually said that HA Dio's time-stop's extension is purely unknow.
- Resistance to GER's abilities and Infinite Rotation: This should just be changed to Power Nullification against Causality Manipulation and Willpower Manipulation, as it's actually shown that Dio didn't openly resist those abilities, but that he overwrote them so that GER couldn't use them, essentially completely nullifying those powers (in the 3rd video below, at 6:45). Giorno, who is very knowledgeable on his Stand's abilities in this game even stated how TWOH works by comparing it directly to GER (still in the 3rd video, at 12:15 at first, and later in more detail at 22:35).
Small Additions
- Corruption: Dio can corrupt others by touch (like all of the other abilities of TWOH), or by summoning some sort of purple Mist/Aura thing. So this would be type 2 Corruption.
- Summoning: Dio can summon that thing that I mentioned above, and it can Corrupt (like in the second video, at 1:29:57) or Soul Steal (like in the 3rd video, at 1:23:35). He also summoned Enyaba (still in the 3rd video, at 9:56).
- Creation: Dio created the Above Mantioned "Over heaven Arena".
- Power Bestowal: Dio can grant others, like everyone who he has corrupt, the ability to Travel through time and worlds. It's shown pretty much everywhere in the 1st and the 2nd video.
- Holy Manipulation and Corruption Negation: (In the game) the Corpse Parts, which Dio held almost all of them at one point, are capable of curing the effects of Dio's own corruption.
- Resistance to Transmutation: Still because of the Corpse Parts (but in actual Jojo canon here). More info here. They also grant Dimensional Travel, but Dio already has it, though I guess it would still apply to Jotaro before getting RO.
- Pieces of the Holy Corpse as Occasional Equipment: Dio at his peak, had all but one pieces of the Holy Corpse, but not all of them, so no Love Train. EoH Jotaro also had one of the Corpse Parts.
Here's the whole Story mode of the Game (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Eyes of Heaven), divided into 3 videos. By watching them, you can understand the whole situation.
Sometimes in what I wrote above, you can see me mentioning "1st" "2nd" and"3rd" videos. I'm referring precisely to those ones, which I'll now link and divide:
- 1st video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeLHVV7DAxU&t=
- 2nd video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4BEG5rZdXU&t=
- 3rd video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmhd-P6PLS4&t=
- Remove Reality Overwrite's 2-A AP
- Split its Power into 2 keys: a High 4-C/4-A for its base, and one left to discuss for its amped (by the majority of the 36 souls) state.
- Remove the "Infinite Speed-Stopping" and "Indefinite" Time-Stop
- Replace his Resistances to GER's powers (Causality Manipulation and Willpower Manipulation) and to Tusk's ACT 4's Bullets to Power Nullification against them.
- Add Corruption, Summoning, Creation and Power Bestowal to HA Dio's and EoH Jotaro's profiles.
- Add most of the Corpse Parts to HA Dio's profile and one of them to EoH Jotaro's, and the abilities that those grant to the user (Holy Manipulation, Corruption Negation, Resistance to Transmutation and Dimensional Travel).
