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Hit Upgrade(READ OP FIRST)

RadicalMrR

RadicalMrR

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In episode 40 Hit demostrated to be able to keep up with SSB Kaioken Goku and not only that but he actually held back to not accidently not kill Goku.

Also I wanted to know that if it is reasonable to to say that Hit will get stronger as the fight goes on here is why.

During Hit's fight with Vegeta,Vegeta said that Hit's attacks were weak.Then during the fight with Goku,Hit was able to knock Goku on his face with just one punch after a bit of sparing.And finally after Goku tore Hit a new one with the Kaioken, after the beam struggle Hit was able to not only keep up but also had to hold back to not kill Goku by accident.

And the reason it's not only his tokitobashi that is improving is by the fact that Hit was still able to hurt Goku even after Goku's durability was multiplied by the Kaioken.

This is from herms A OFFICIAL TRANSLATOR FROM KANZENSHUU

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=33853

Hit approaches Goku and the two bump fists, then fly to opposite sides of the arena. As they prepare to recommence fighting, Hit shows off another new pose, which Beerus notes he must have invented to match his improved strength (similar to what he did last episode).
 
Yep,Hit must be upgraded to 3-A now.He is stronger than SSB KKx10 while was holding back,his time stop increased from 0.5s to even more,probably 1s.Also he can now freeze someone inside frozen time like he did against Goku who has time time stop resistance
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Hit freezing Goku inside frozen time

And yes,his special abillity to get stronger if he fights against stronger opponent
 
So Hit was stronger than 10x SSB Goku? Well, then he should get an upgrade. No question about it.
 
I have now tried to fix the profile, but we still need to clarify his techniques.
 
Antvasima said:
So Hit was stronger than 10x SSB Goku? Well, then he should get an upgrade. No question about it.
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Pretty much.It got to a point where Goku asked to take away the no killing rule so that he could see Hit's true power.
 
Okay. I will insert that.
 
Antvasima said:
I have now tried to fix the profile, but we still need to clarify his techniques.
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Well on his profile in category : Notable Attack/Techniques:

It says time leap is 0.5s but it's actually more

Also you should note than he can freeze someone in frozen time who has resistance to time stopping

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He is also over 1000 years old

Also you should add that he targets vital points
 
Antvasima said:
I have now tried to fix the profile, but we still need to clarify his techniques.
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From things stated in the episode it seems like Hit actually improves himself as long as his opponent is stronger then him.

The best example of this is a frog in water that keeps getting hotter as time goes on.If you drop the frog in boiling water he will die however if you leave him in room tempeture water and keep uping the tempeture the frog will have time to adjust to the new heat.

Now replace the frog with Hit and and the water with attacks.This also goes applies to his speed,AP,dura,etc.
 
Yea,that also.He gets stronger while fightingl,like crazy stronger and also his techniques improve
 
I have added some new descriptions of his techniques.
 
Antvasima said:
I have added some new descriptions of his techniques.
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Thats pretty much it.

But on a different topic Champa was about to casually kill Hit in this episode do you think that atleast deserves a Universe+ or not.
 
Let's see how accurate the subtitles happened to be. It is shown clearly that Goku deliberately forfeited the match. And Hit would have won by far either way. It's not definite.
 
no universal+ means infintely stronger than Hit besides universal is a vast category
 
No. Champa must be able to destroy an entire universal space-time continuum, or timeline, in order to qualify for Low 2-C. Our system isn't perfect, so we regrettably don't have specific tiers for every situation.
 
Well, Champa and Beerus are stronger than just universal but not that much. I mean they can destory an entire universe, that has living world, other world, Kaioshin realm, hell, etc.
 
Antvasima said:
No. Champa must be able to destroy an entire universal space-time continuum, or timeline, in order to qualify for Low 2-C. Our system isn't perfect, so we regrettably don't have specific tiers for every situation.
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That's fine. I was at least hoping for High 3-A.
 
Wait, why is Hit being upgraded? It was made clear last episode that he can't increase his strength (ki). The only way for him to improve is to improve his time leap, which is what he did in this episode. He was neither matching Goku nor was he stronger than him via sheer power. He got the leg up on him through his time leap.
 
TheMightyRegulator said:
Tier 3-A is too large for that.
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Qustion if I remove my OP will it close the thread or do I ask a mod.

If the latter you can close the thread if you please.
 
I agree. In fact, I saw the recent events. He was and can still easily be punched by Goku with his Kaioken in his most recent Super Saiyan form.
 
Exactly. So I'm of the opinion that Hit should be kept at 3-B. There's no question that he was matching SSJB Goku blow for blow and the latter was 3-B before the KK upgrade. And Hit made it very clear that his limit, raw power-wise, was SSJB. So 3-B is still perfectly fine, but 3-A just seems like a big stretch based on all the evidence and implications we've received in the last few episodes regarding Hit's power.
 
I know that this thread is for Hit, but I have to ask this: In order to destroy Universe 7 and 6, shouldn't be Bills and Champa High 3-A or Low 2-C? Because Wiss and Vados said that if they fight with all their power they would, in fact, destroy both universes.
 
Dekoshu said:
I agree. In fact, I saw the recent events. He was and can still easily be punched by Goku with his Kaioken in his most recent Super Saiyan form.
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Goku asked the gods to take away the no killing rule so that Hit could show off his true power.

Hit was able to take and dish out attacks against Goku aswell as keep up with him in speed.

During this episode Hit also said how he has managed to improve over all.

In my OP I explained all the instances where Hit showed off to be stronger than before.
 
KaenDragneel123 said:
I know that this thread is for Hit, but I have to ask this: In order to destroy Universe 7 and 6, shouldn't be Bills and Champa High 3-A or Low 2-C? Because Wiss and Vados said that if they fight with all their power they would, in fact, destroy both universes.
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Destroying the physical matter of two universes is still 3-A.

Back on topic, Hit didn't fight on par with Goku's new transformation?
 
TheMightyRegulator said:
KaenDragneel123 said:
I know that this thread is for Hit, but I have to ask this: In order to destroy Universe 7 and 6, shouldn't be Bills and Champa High 3-A or Low 2-C? Because Wiss and Vados said that if they fight with all their power they would, in fact, destroy both universes.
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Destroying the physical matter of two universes is still 3-A.
Back on topic, Hit didn't fight on par with Goku's new transformation?
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Not through raw power, which is what he would of needed to do in order to get the scaling. It's been implied more than once that Goku with KK x10 was far stronger than Hit. Hit was only able to keep up via improving his time leap again. That's how he avoided Goku's kamehameha and that's how he was countering Goku in this episode.
 
Dekoshu said:
So he didn't just improve his Time Skip, but physically as well?
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The Kaioken made Goku's dura 10X better so if Hit's AP didn't go up aswell there would be no way for Hit to hurt Goku.Not only that but Hit also did match Goku's Kamehameha from episode 39
 
RadicalMrR said:
Dekoshu said:
So he didn't just improve his Time Skip, but physically as well?
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The Kaioken made Goku's dura 10X better so if Hit's AP didn't go up aswell there would be no way for Hit to hurt Goku.Not only that but Hit also did match Goku's Kamehameha from episode 39
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That's incorrect. Hit attacks his opponents vital points. In his fight against Goku he even states it doesn't matter how tough he is because if he keeps attacking his vital points then he will die. So durability isn't an issue for Hit (at least when it comes to fighters like Goku and Vegeta).

And Hit didn't match Goku's Kamehameha. He used his time leap to freeze Goku in order to escape it.
 
I consider that Hit should be 3-A only cuz he was able to keep up against a Universe level character, however, any other stat should stay the same, due that he only improve his time stop ability. Not sure is KKx10 improve durability too
 
You meant the Kaioken Kamehameha x10? Essentially, Goku did a God Kamehameha combined with Kaioken x10, right?
 
@Bats: No, Hit was able to knock Goku out of his Kaioken form, but due to Goku's stubbornness of not giving up, goku stood back up. Yeah Hit was able to hurt a 3-A character multiple times in both episode 39 and 40. Hit even held back against Goku at the end, the only thing worth noticing is that Goku with ssbkkx10 outsped Hit normally but Hit was able to keep up with Goku thanks to time freeze.
 
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