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Susanoo vs Susanoomon
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GETTING DRAGON
Also sorry about the chat I got called away briefly
Also sorry about the chat I got called away briefly
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Ehh, it's alright
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Anyway what does Terumi lead with again?
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Susanoo vs The guy who wrecked Lucemon....
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Precognition and Ouroboros/Timekiller powers in this state
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Does anything Susanoo have work against Susanoo?
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Depends on what Susanoo uses in character, but I know that Susanoo can't die easily
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Precog is nice, but Susanoomon kinda turns that back on Terumi with Pandora Dialogue. Susanoomon will also effortlessly counter any projectile attack due to sheer AP and one shot. Terumi regens and gets stuck in Chrono Breaker and likely Sealed away, or hit with Hellfire....Although, I still don't know if being erased conceptually from the cycle of existence and nothingness bypasses High-Godly...
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He resists Type 2 concept, and can adapt to his attacks by observing them.
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>He resists Type 2 Concept.
Yeah, so do the Demon Lords. They resisted a conceptual attack from Voltbautamo attack hit their TRUE concepts directly. Still can't hope to resist El Evangelo however. Meaning, they resisted a High 2-A - Low 1-C Conceptual attack as Voltbautamon was going to completely erase their concepts to put into place his own, meaning it only would make sense for him to target the very source of their concepts. The Flames of the Dark Area can still erase them.
Yeah, so do the Demon Lords. They resisted a conceptual attack from Voltbautamo attack hit their TRUE concepts directly. Still can't hope to resist El Evangelo however. Meaning, they resisted a High 2-A - Low 1-C Conceptual attack as Voltbautamon was going to completely erase their concepts to put into place his own, meaning it only would make sense for him to target the very source of their concepts. The Flames of the Dark Area can still erase them.
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Ok. And there's still the precognition issue he has to deal with since he's gonna be aware of what Susanoomon can use and would use the best tool to render his actions null
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That doesn't bypass High Godly no
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Susanoomon is about to get a resistance to Power Null.
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Even if it's superior to a High 2-A or Low 1-C conceptual attack?Schnee One said:
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Isn't Susanoomon the guy who killed Lucemon?
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No, I meant he's already aware of what he would do ahead of time and can just do whatever he can to make his moves not work as he can either seal him, BFR into the boundary, Time Killer, etc.
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Yeah Terumi's pre-cog is borderline cosmic awareness/clairevoyance.
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He has never sealed someone as strong as Susanoomon away before. And yes, Sealing is dictated by power.
Doesn't he have to hit with Ouroboros for that?
Time Killer can be countered with any attack from Susanoomon. You can see something coming, doesn't mean you can always stop it.
Boundary Hax
Time Manipulation: Resisted
Memory Manipulation: Form of Mind Manipulation. Resisted
Mind Manipulation: Resisted to an infinite degree.
Existence Erasure and Corruption: Resisted. He resisted the Dark Area, didn't have his body overcome by darkness and resisted the flames of hell by Lucemon. His Champion form resisted the Flames of Hell from Cerberumo.
Am I missing anything? This is everything I saw from Makoto's file that revolved around the Boundary.
Doesn't he have to hit with Ouroboros for that?
Time Killer can be countered with any attack from Susanoomon. You can see something coming, doesn't mean you can always stop it.
Boundary Hax
Time Manipulation: Resisted
Memory Manipulation: Form of Mind Manipulation. Resisted
Mind Manipulation: Resisted to an infinite degree.
Existence Erasure and Corruption: Resisted. He resisted the Dark Area, didn't have his body overcome by darkness and resisted the flames of hell by Lucemon. His Champion form resisted the Flames of Hell from Cerberumo.
Am I missing anything? This is everything I saw from Makoto's file that revolved around the Boundary.
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When he can just summon Ouroboros around him and it hit summoning isn't an issue.
When said Precognition allows Terumi to outsmart a nigh omniscient deity by finding the one in infinite possibilities that they wouldn't be aware of him in a very very very very very small fraction of a second, and he took that chance and succeeded, chances are he can see it coming and stop it.
How can it be countered when it's something that can bypass resistance since it affected Terumi?
Chaos, and information.
When said Precognition allows Terumi to outsmart a nigh omniscient deity by finding the one in infinite possibilities that they wouldn't be aware of him in a very very very very very small fraction of a second, and he took that chance and succeeded, chances are he can see it coming and stop it.
How can it be countered when it's something that can bypass resistance since it affected Terumi?
Chaos, and information.
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Man, if it were only tier that was being revised it wouldn't be an issue, but many Digimon including Susanoomon will be getting revised. I mean, as I said, Susanoomon has survived direct hits from El Evangelo, something as I have explained is far superior to anything Terumi has in terms of Erasure.
Because, he actually needs to hit him with Time Killer? With Susanoomon having infinitely higher AP then him? Susanoomon just does what he did to Lucemon. Or just nukes the place like the God of Destruction he is. Not to mention that there is the high chance that he uses Chrono Breaker to counter. Something Terumi can't resist. Or he gets countered by a Hellfire attack that's far superior to anything Terumi has resisted.
>Chaos Manipulation
Depends on what it does.
>Information Manipulation
All Digimon are about to get a resistance to this thanks to the Eaters. And based on Makoto's file, you put the Information bit under Mind Manipulation. Not to mention the mind and soul based attacks in Digimon are Information based.
Because, he actually needs to hit him with Time Killer? With Susanoomon having infinitely higher AP then him? Susanoomon just does what he did to Lucemon. Or just nukes the place like the God of Destruction he is. Not to mention that there is the high chance that he uses Chrono Breaker to counter. Something Terumi can't resist. Or he gets countered by a Hellfire attack that's far superior to anything Terumi has resisted.
>Chaos Manipulation
Depends on what it does.
>Information Manipulation
All Digimon are about to get a resistance to this thanks to the Eaters. And based on Makoto's file, you put the Information bit under Mind Manipulation. Not to mention the mind and soul based attacks in Digimon are Information based.
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AP never mattered for an attack that erases your time and any time you could've had.
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It does when said erasure erases you beyond even nothing conceptually. You know, a higher dimensional erasure that superior to a Conceptual Attack that could damage a Low 1-C concept. Not to mention, this assumes Time Killer hits in the first place.
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Precognition guarantees a hit for Terumi as he can find the possibility where he can hit Susanoomon.
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Then we get to the whole, is Susanoomon's feat is good enough to survive as he can resist erasure beyond nothingness....conceptually (yet was erased by Dead or Alive and still regenerated. This erasure scaling is getting crazy).
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Seems like the mon has better resistance than the EE's potency.
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What when?Dragonmasterxyz said:
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Even if it's superior to a High 2-A or Low 1-C conceptual attack?
Not to my knowledge
Higher dimensional Erasure really shouldn't automatically kill someone with high Godly just because they're stronger
Not to my knowledge
Higher dimensional Erasure really shouldn't automatically kill someone with high Godly just because they're stronger
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