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Possible Bleach Speed Update

USklaverei

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Then these calculations were accepted by two of the calc members. I asked other calc member people to evaluate, but this did not happen, Ant asked me to do a CRT, so here we are.

Pro calculation of Mimihagi needs to be debated which end will be used. In Liltotto, one must debate who scale together.
 
I think the calculation of the distance between SS and Reyokyu should be evaluated more before anything else.
 
KazuiK said:
I think the calculation of the distance between SS and Reyokyu should be evaluated more before anything else.
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Yes, I asked several calc members to evaluate, but only one did this.
 
Sekusu said:
The accepted mimihagi calc is pretty much lowball..using the speed of half mach while the dude created a sonic boom when he started to fly..time frame..etc
But i find it more logical than these
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Why do you think more logical?
 
I think if other people without being a calculating member evaluate the calculation or at least say what you think, it may attract some evaluators' attention.

Edit:it seems that it has already been accepted by another member.
 
I posted this just to see the opinion of Bleach, but the guys do not comment, and look what I sent in the CRT.

I saw, that helps a lot.
 
Yes, now we need to discuss which of the endings should be used, but for this I think it's best to wait for more members to interact.
 
USklaverei said:
Yes, now we need to discuss which of the endings should be used, but for this I think it's best to wait for more members to interact.
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Yeah,but am rooting for your calc u.u.

It got more "good to go" from calc members than mine and seems a bit ordered than mine XD.
 
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
Since the calcs have been accepted, what we now have to discuss is the possiblity of the feats being called an outlier.
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Difficult considering the Top Tier don't have any speed feas like at all to compare too.
 
The top tiers do have a few speed feats that are just called outliers

Dodging the auswahlen

Dodging volstandig Lile Barro's shots

The top tiers scale off of people who did both of those i.e yhwach scales off of his sternritters who could dodge it like bazz-b
 
So...

  • Massively Hypersonic+ to Sub-Relativistic+
And

  • Sub-Relativistic (+) to Relativistic (+)


I don't think these gains are large enough to be considered outlier worthy.

Also doesn't Bleach have numerous Relativistic feats as well?
 
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
Yeah, but they were either wrote off as an outlier or the calculations done for them were rejected.
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I get rejected calculations, but why an outlier?

There isn't that big of a difference between Sub-Relativistic+ to Relativistic+, right?
 
I think it's kind of unlikely to be considered an outlier, the accomplishments themselves stand. But the question is, who climbs with Liltotto?
 
Liltotto is a high tier of Bleach so it would probably only scale to the stronger captains. So for now I'm pretty sure it would scale to the 7-A+ characters like the Post-Timeskip captains and the stronger Sternritters.
 
It could also be calculated the descent of Lille from the Palace, so in case considering 60 seconds is:

Low = 12656131.2 m / s - 0.04c. (Sub-relativist)

Mid = 25307642.025 m / s - 0.08c. (Sub-relativist +)

High = 126539134.2 m / s - 0.42 c. (Relativist)

We still have Shunsui escaping from the Light of Lille and Liltotto to divert from the Auswahlen, which could also be calculated from this distance if it is not accepted as real light.
 
Yes, he has crossed all this distance very fast, there is no way he could only have 'fallen'.
 
But let's suppose that the middle final is accepted, Liltotto to divert from Auswahlen would give Sub-Relativist / Sub-Relativist +, which would be consistent with her diverting from Candice's Ray, Lille would give 0.08c which would be slightly larger than Liltotto , Mimihagi being of the Divine layer would be Relativistic +, this would be very consistent.
 
If I'm reading this correctly, the distance calc/Mimihagi speed calc is using the time it takes Ichigo to cross the radius of the Shakonmaku to apply a speed to Ichigo to apply for the distance to Reiokyu?

I guess that works since was said to just be hauling ass the entire time and it avoids any chance of calc-stacking.

So the results are:

Timeframe

  • :Low = 5 seconds
  • :Mid = 2.5 seconds
  • :High = 1 second
Cruise Speed Ichigo

  • :Low = 45,600 m/s
  • :Mid = 91200 m/s
  • :High = 228000 m/s
Distance between Reiokyu and Seireitei

  • Low = 759367872 meters
  • Mid = 1518458521.5 meters
  • High = 3796174026 meters


The Scans
Page 1: Ichigo crashes into the Shakonmaku and all the Sternritter Girls notice.

Page 2: In Panel 1 Candice wonders what it is and in Panel 2 Ichigo has already landed.

So the entire feat takes 2 panels for Ichigo to cover the distance and Candice was able to say, "What the...? What was that...?!" during it.

It's definitely not the Low End, that's for sure. I'd probably advocate the Middle End just to be safe and avoid any possible inflation.
 
As for the Liltotto calc, I have issues with the assumed heights of Liltotto and Candice.

Need I remind people of the Bleach girls' heights?:

Yoruichi: 156cm

Orihime: 157cm

Rukia: 144cm

Rangiku: 172cm

Momo: 151cm

Nel: 176cm

Sui-Feng: 150cm

Unohana: 159cm

Isane: 187cm

Tier: 175cm

Nemu: 167cm

Tatsuki: 155cm

Hiyori: 133cm

Kukaku: 168cm

The average Bleach girl is about 150-160cm. Liltotto is very very very very very very short.

The top of her head doesn't even reach Giselle's shoulders and Giselle is shorter than Meninas and Meninas is shorter than Candice.

You can barely see her shadow besides the shadows of Giselle, Meninas and Candice who are in clear view.

Again, Liltotto is very short.

Incredibly short.

The girl is honestly a dwarf.

For accuracy's sake, Liltotto should be a lot shorter than that calc is assuming when she's shorter than all of the Quincy Girls. 150cm means Liltotto is only 6cm shorter than Yoruichi and taller than Rukia by 6cm.

I'd bet Liltotto is much closer to Hiyori than anything given how she's portrayed heads below several other girls.
 
I think that IMade seems to make sense.
 
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