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Kharn fights a Betrayer's brother

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Found a match that could possibly be legit for both Dragon Ball and Warhammer. Meta Cooler and 4-B Kharn is used here and it takes place on Namek cause why not. Speed is equalized.

Cooler: 8

Khârn the Betrayer:

Inconclusive: 2

Meta Cooler
Kharn Fullbody
 
What is the scaling of Toei 4-Bs?

And shouldn't Cooler have Type 6 from the Big Gete Star?
 
@Schnee considering Cooler can incapacitate Kharn by blowing up the planet and leaving him in space unable to do anything, he could possibly do it. That or potentially overwhelm him with his adaptation.
 
@Warren they scale from Frieza's planet namek explosion, which is almost in the KiloFOE
 
Kharn's durability is scaling significantly below the AP of Angro and Abaddon the Despoiler though not to an absurd degree. High megafoe to low gigafoe.

His AP is not that, but Gorechild makes that less relevant.
 
The Wright Way said:
Eats your soul when it hits you. That, or feeds it to Khorne, I forget which.
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Doesn't Meta-Cooler lack a soul via just being a robot?
 
Would Cooler, as a robot, have a soul? His pretty much his memories transfered into the machine.
 
Honestly, I think Meta-Cooler gets destroyed by Kharn, and comes back stronger again and again until Kharn is too weak to effect Cooler with his AP.

However, Cooler would also be incapable of getting passed Kharn's durability via the large difference.


So as of right now, Inconclusive because neither will be able to kill the other.

Edit: Wait! Does Kharn's power null, null Cooler coming back via the clones and said clones getting stronger?
 
Can cooler come back within a combat applicable amount of time after being killed?
 
The meta coolers themselves don't really have a soul since that's not "Cooler". The real cooler is in the big Gete Star
 
@Paul considering the big Gete Star literally made an army of coolers in less than a minute due to the reactive evolution, then yes.
 
Well then I guess this comes down to

Would Khorne find cooler coming back stronger each time unfair and null it?
 
Paul Frank said:
Well then I guess this comes down to
Would Khorn find cooler coming back stronger each time unfair and null it?
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Even if he does? Isn't there an army of Meta-Coolers?

Wouldn't they eventually just say, "**** it", and blow up the planet?
 
Theglassman12 said:
It's not really hax as all the coolers are still using martial arts and ki.
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Coming back after dying and getting stronger each time is 100% hax
 
The real cal howard said:
They upscale from Frieza's Vegeta bust, not his Namek bust.
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Cooler's profile has Frieza's namek bust calc tho.
 
No to both Glass and Warren. I know what I'm takking about for Toei as opposed to canon, for one. Me and Kep both said that people don't scale to it after coming to a conclusion together. Albeit for different reasons.
 
Gorechild takes care of rez.
 
Wokistan said:
Gorechild takes care of rez.
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It isn't resurrection per se.

The Big Gete Star and Cooler fused into one being.

And through the Big Gete Star, Cooler is able to create hundreds of clones of himself, Meta-Cooler.

So if one dies, then another clone takes his place.


And since they are just robots, they lack a soul, and thus Gorechild doesn't affect them.
 
The real cal howard said:
No to both Glass and Warren. I know what I'm takking about for Toei as opposed to canon, for one. Me and Kep both said that people don't scale to it after coming to a conclusion together. Albeit for different reasons.
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Then why is it linked on his page?
 
What souls actually are, especially in relation to greater daemons, isn't really that your average soul.

GDs at their most abstract are 1-B (Or higher, in some cases) aspects of their respective Chaos God, existing only as concepts that can't really be altered unless the CG says so. Gorechild is consuming that, not some conventional soul. I'd think he could bring a permanent death to MC by consuming the abstract essence that allows MC to exist in the first place, and if he couldn't Khorne would probably negate it anyways so it doesn't skirt the purpose of Gorechild as anti regen.

If its just a lot of clones nothing stops Kharn from just destroying them all. 5000 kills a battle is average to him.
 
They are remote controlled robots. And they don't run out, Cooler can make them really damn fast, even ignoring their regen.
 
Wokistan said:
What souls actually are, especially in relation to greater daemons, isn't really that your average soul.
GDs at their most abstract are 1-B (Or higher, in some cases) aspects of their respective Chaos God, existing only as concepts that can't really be altered unless the CG says so. Gorechild is consuming that, not some conventional soul. I'd think he could bring a permanent death to MC by consuming the abstract essence that allows MC to exist in the first place, and if he couldn't Khorne would probably negate it anyways so it doesn't skirt the purpose of Gorechild as anti regen.

If its just a lot of clones nothing stops Kharn from just destroying them all. 5000 kills a battle is average to him.
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What stops the Big Gete Star from making a stronger variation of Meta-Cooler clones?

And if hundreds to thousands of Meta-Coolers were getting physically destroyed, wouldn't he just blow the planet up?

I mean, he tried to do that the moment he was being overwhelmed by Super Saiyan Goku in his original appearance.
 
That it's never been shown making one strong enough to get by his durability. Also that Gorechild may just absorb the abstract form of meta-cooler anyways.

How thoroughly can he do that, and would he really just leave Kharn alone after that? Leaving debris lets Kharn jump to him, and he's not more than 4km away via SBA
 
Then why is it linked on his page?

Same reason my Kirby explanation blog was linked in the featured blogs section years after it became outdated.
 
Wokistan said:
That it's never been shown making one strong enough to get by his durability. Also that Gorechild may just absorb the abstract form of meta-cooler anyways.
How thoroughly can he do that, and would he really just leave Kharn alone after that? Leaving debris lets Kharn jump to him, and he's not more than 4km away via SBA
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I never said it would get past his durability if you looked at my vote earlier - you would see that I specifically said that was not the case.


And why would there be an "abstract form of meta-cooler"? That's like saying some abstract form of myself is imprinted on an RC Car because I am playing with it.

They are just robots created in Cooler's image and connected via data. It's like controlling a robot via Bluetooth.


And he's 4-B, he should be able to blow up a planet very efficiently.

And yeah, if Cooler sees that he has absolutely no effect on the guy, and the guy just floats throughout space without being able to move, why wouldn't he just leave him?

And jump to which Cooler? The thousands of expendable Meta-Cooler clones?
 
The real cal howard said:
Same reason my Kirby explanation blog was linked in the featured blogs section years after it became outdated.
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Honestly, Meta-Cooler's page needs a CRT.

He has inaccurate calcs for his justifications, lacks his Immunity to Soul Manipulation via being a robot, and Type 6 Immortality that he should have.
 
Pretty sure Meta-Cooler wins here.

Kharn can't really put Cooler down here unless he goes straight for the Getti Star and more specifically, the original Cooler. Otherwise he will just be swarmed with a bunch of disposable yet powerful Cooler bodies that he can't permanently kill since they're all connected via data and essentially an internet connection and not an abstract mind or something.

I'm giving Kharn the leeway of Superior AP here but I still can't see how Kharn will avoid being ganked by a 1000 Cooler army or something. Or Cooler, after many attempts and getting pimp slapped aside, doesn't just blow up the planet and move on elsewhere once he notices Kharn doesn't fly.
 
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