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what about Creating earth/moon or both via mass-energyKaltias said:@Merlight
Creating the Sun via mass-energy is already above baseline 4-B
Most of the times, yes.Antvasima said:I agree with Matthew. Creating stars and the like is generally done via reality warping.
I don't see the correlation, universe creation feats are low 2-C for creating space-time on universal scale, if pocket reality feats followed the samae logic used behind universal ones they'd be high 3-A instead of whatever they're rated as now.Andytrenom said:I'll repeat my points from the previous thread.
If pocket dimension feats are to be calced with sum of GBE, I don't see how universe creation feats would be any different. The same logic that makes pocket reality feats high 4-C would make Universes creation feats tier 4.
No one's argued for baseline this entire thread.Kepekley23 said:"Baseline 4-A" as a rating is not based on facts.
Kepekley23 said:Universe creation feats are Low 2-C
No they are not. We only assume Low 2-C if it's explicitly stated that space-time is created. Otherwise we assume 3-A.
Dargoo Faust said:Creating a universe with its own spacetime is Low 2-C, though. No one's contesting that.
This, tbh. We mean unquantifiable.Dargoo Faust said:No one's argued for baseline this entire thread.Kepekley23 said:"Baseline 4-A" as a rating is not based on facts.
inb4 "unquantifiable = baseline" see my example of reasoning with statements:Matthew Schroeder said:This, tbh. We mean unquantifiable.
Going by Kep's example we'd assume both characters are baseline or even just call them unknown because they just happen to not have feats we can properly calc.Dargoo Faust said:I strongly disagree here. I'll use statements as an example. Someone being said to "demolish large cities" is clearly superior to someone who is said to be able to "destroy a city". Since we would assume the second statement is baseline, the previous one can be reasoned to be above baseline. Neither can really be evaluated due to lack of details but the difference can be seen in comparing the two in logic.
Going by Kep's example we'd assume both characters are baseline or even just call them unknown because they just happen to not have feats we can properly calc.Dargoo Faust said:I strongly disagree here. I'll use statements as an example. Someone being said to "demolish large cities" is clearly superior to someone who is said to be able to "destroy a city". Since we would assume the second statement is baseline, the previous one can be reasoned to be above baseline. Neither can really be evaluated due to lack of details but the difference can be seen in comparing the two in logic.
1. Supermassive black holes are 4-B in our system. Dark matter is still in the process of being quantified at all.Merlight said:@kepekley23
Some galaxies (like da milky way) also hold the mass black holes and dark matter too lol not just those you listed. Estimating based off that the sum GBE of all them in the universe might go into 3-C. But sure, at worst its 4-A
I mean, if you want to make creating any celestial body either (1) an unquantifiable feat or (2) make creating planets a Low 4-C feat via e=mc┬▓ then sure - considering GBE has nothing to do with creation either, nor does Reality Warping or anything.Dargoo Faust said:2) follows the "creation = destruction" standard just as much as 1) does, though.