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Barney & Friends: The CRT

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The only issue I have is his Conceptual manip, it´s weird, as he resists it from a kid that tried to conceptually erase him with his imagination (yes, kids in the Barneyverse have that power should they interact with him; Hmmmm, he should have Power Bestowal too now that I think about it), which Barney easily said lol no to, which means that Barney should be able to conceptually erase those he desires to that lack a resistance to it.

Huh, I ended up writing a good justification for it, I guess it can stay, in which case, I guess it can be transferred, but I don´t know if I can just erase it fom there and move it here, especially considering he somehow got as the 4th most popular page in the wiki.

Maybe I should ask Ryukama?

Eh, I´ll go ahead just in case.
 
I even bothered to put a link and explanation to all of his powers and abilities, so it´s pretty solid as far I know.
 
One question, where does he show the ability to use conceptual erasure? Resisting it is fine since it seems to be accurate by the rules of that verse, but tanking that kind of ability shouldn't grant Barney the same power. Giving Barney conceptual erasure for that feat is akin to giving someone fire manipulation for tanking a blast of fire. If he has no feats or statements of being able to perform the same feats as the children, giving him the same ability makes no sense. It might also be good for someone to take a look at the scene to see if there's some other in-verse logic being applied as to why Barney isn't erased in that moment.

To summarise, Barney should only have conceptual manipulation if he's shown or stated to have that power, otherwise it's inaccurate to have it on the profile.
 
VindictiveLoser said:
To summarise, Barney should only have conceptual manipulation if he's shown or stated to have that power, otherwise it's inaccurate to have it on the profile.
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Barney has Power Bestowal, and so if the kid has the capability to do so, he also can, it´s basically upscaling.
 
@Bobsican If Barney exists thanks to their supposed conceptual manipulation in the first place, he's not the one who bestows the ability. Even if he was, that doesn't always mean he has that ability himself.
 
VindictiveLoser said:
@Bobsican If Barney exists thanks to their supposed conceptual manipulation in the first place, he's not the one who bestows the ability. Even if he was, that doesn't always mean he has that ability himself.
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He is, as meeting the creators themselves (the particular kids), don´t grant the powers they have, and as Barney has shown to have a better affnity with it than them in many occasions, it´s safe to say that he has it.
 
@Bobsican Your reply implies he's used it before. If this is the case it's inclusion on the profile is fine, as I said in my first comment. I still don't think that granting a power warrants giving him that same power if he's never been shown to use it. Though again, if he was created by that power in the first place he's either not the one bestowing it, or it doesn't need to be bestowed. It might be best for someone to look at these instances you're mentioning and add it to the profile as evidence, otherwise this same issue will happen again regardless of whether the profile is legit.
 
It´s like an in-verse thing, something subtly pointed out as it´s a kids show, not a lolhax one.
 
I'm aware it's a children's show, but it should still undergo some level of scrutiny to ensure the profile is as good as we can make it. And again, if there is some evidence it should be linked on the profile so this doesn't happen again, since this kind of procedure can greatly slow down a debate.
 
Maybe I should write a blog about it?

If so, which other thigns should be pointed out in detail?
 
I'm not exactly an expert either since I've been on the wiki for a few months now, but I suppose anything in the powers and abilities section should have a justification, which this profile already has, and the more abstract things should have evidence on the blog, so evidence for things like abstract existence, concept manip, immortality, etc. Anything like that, since people on and off the wiki will often inflate feats or use the highest possible interpretation to make their favoured character seem more powerful. In general asking staff who are well versed in making profiles would be a good idea too. Having one of them look it over would likely be a huge help in making it more accurate, concise, and overall a better profile.

That's all I can think of for right now though.
 
I´ll wait to see what Nedge says, as he surely is wise on this.
 
I've seen some of Nedge's work in other threads so you should be fine. I wish I could help a bit more but I'd likely just make things more difficult since I'm still getting used to the guidelines and rules here.
 
VindictiveLoser said:
I'm not exactly an expert either since I've been on the wiki for a few months now, but I suppose anything in the powers and abilities section should have a justification, which this profile already has, and the more abstract things should have evidence on the blog, so evidence for things like abstract existence, concept manip, immortality, etc. Anything like that, since people on and off the wiki will often inflate feats or use the highest possible interpretation to make their favoured character seem more powerful. In general asking staff who are well versed in making profiles would be a good idea too. Having one of them look it over would likely be a huge help in making it more accurate, concise, and overall a better profile.
That's all I can think of for right now though.
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This point is correct here because there is currently no supporting evidence from blogs or Content Revision Thread.

Added with the fact, most of the profile was from joke battle wiki before its deletion, evidences are needed because because some abilties could be literal jokes
 
There probably should be more in depth evidence or explanation for some of the more complex stuff. Video links would help
 
I made the profile with evidence for all of his stuff (except maybe a thing or two I forgot to take out), even the JBW version was made by me, so I can just take a look around and just write a blog as a note at the end of his page.
 
I've got a few questions about his stats.

Where does subsonic+ speed come from? Just being a blur is only subsonic.

Why is there concept manipulation? What remotely implies he erases the concepts of stuff?

Why I still the evidence for EE resistance in Spanish? It makes it a little hard to confirm.

How does clothing manipulation work?

Where does the high regen come from?

That intelligence description isn't remotely Extraordinary Genius.
 
Bobsica, well, it is a rare opportunity here that you are the author. Now, the question is can you provide evidence for things like abstract existence, concept manip, immortality, etc because otherwise, they are bound to be removed from a CRT?
 
1: Knowning the size of Barney´s house, I thought it would approximatelly get that rating, even if baseline.

2: He scales from the kid that tried to erase him with his own imagination (as the kids in the Barneyverse that meet him get some of the powers listed), and as conceptual manip is needed to destroy an abstractentity like Barney, he gets it by upscaling.

3: Again, the kid tried to erase Barney with his imagination, here´s a version of the same scene in english: https://youtu.be/Os3LM2MTKr4?t=702

4: He simply makes some light sparkles that then turn into clothing or do this.

Note that he was also the one that made those jars, which is also from where he gets a posssible rating for the weather manip, as they got broken in the end of the episode, but we can aso see right at the end Barney making a bit of snow, which is why that power gets a possibly rating. The cloth manip is more solid.

5: As he can remake himself by switching to his doll form and vice-versa, he gets that rating as he reforms himself with light particles, which are small enought to grant this rating.

6: Maybe Gifted then?
 
1. Still need a calc for putting it at a +

2. Well now there's the fact that Barney shouldn't have Abstract Existence, but that's for later.

3. Ok

4. Also ok, but what's with the stat amp?

5. When was it said he remakes himself from light? Just transforming yourself isn't that.

6. I'd say above average, but gifted is fine.
 
Oh, missed that. Yeah that seems good. Probably needs some rewording though, it sounds like he's a genius for taking care of kids.
 
I actually wonder how hard is it to build a rocket? Ive heard that it requires very good mechanical engineering skills. But then again he did build it with almost no experience and with ease.
 
For the video of him jumping, how does anyone know the scale of the earthquake? Or that this isn't an outlier?
 
Torlikoff said:
1. Still need a calc for putting it at a +
2. Well now there's the fact that Barney shouldn't have Abstract Existence, but that's for later.

3. Ok

4. Also ok, but what's with the stat amp?

5. When was it said he remakes himself from light? Just transforming yourself isn't that.

6. I'd say above average, but gifted is fine.
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1: Please do me the favor to reques tit in that case, I´m very occupated curently debating hsi other stats curently.

2: Take your time.

4: He has been shown to change a bit his own clothing to be more comfortable to his enviroment.

5: What else can be classified as the sparkles he reformates from?
 
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