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Yukari vs Rimuru

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ShadowWarrior1999

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Ok, might be a bad idea but I gotta see how this goes. Both High 4-C, Ultimate Form Rimuru key is used, and speed equalized. Who wins?

Yukari: 9 (The Causality, Junkoposter, ZacharyGrossman273, Setsuna tenma, Apatheticskell, CoreOfimBalance(COB), FateAlbane, DMB 1, Psychomaster35)

Rimuru: 9 (Szmiit, Celestial Pegasus, John Werner, Ricsi-viragosi, PaChi2, OMEGA-82, Nedge1000, ZackMoon1234, Mr. Bambu)

Inconclusive: 2 (GLHF22, OpMasada)

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Why are 90% of Yukari's fanarts just the original arts, but with a larger chest?

Not that I mind that though.
 
The current problem is that it seem that the clone don't exist in the main Universe but in another place outside it but i need some explanation about it from Tensei's fans

And about Yukari, i guess that her Boundary Erasure work on the concept of a being like: the concept of "Rimuru" is erased, if this is that, The imaginary clone could be erased alongside Original but i dont know if her conceptual erasure work like that

I tend to Vote Yukari but i'll will wait
 
She would have to kill him , his clone in the imaginery space and his clone in the past AT THE SAME TIME and all of them (or at least the first 2) use multiple dimentional bariers as well as having absurd regen
 
The Causality said:
The current problem is that it seem that the clone don't exist in the main Universe but in another place outside it but i need some explanation about it from Tensei's fans
And about Yukari, i guess that her Boundary Erasure work on the concept of a being like: the concept of "Rimuru" is erased, if this is that, The imaginary clone could be erased alongside Original but i dont know if her conceptual erasure work like that

I tend to Vote Yukari but i'll will wait
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He has 3 bodies, 3 existences. One is the body fighting, another is within his Imaginary Space, which is an infinite sized dimension disconnected from reality, the last is within his previous world.
 
The Causality said:
The current problem is that it seem that the clone don't exist in the main Universe but in another place outside it but i need some explanation about it from Tensei's fans
And about Yukari, i guess that her Boundary Erasure work on the concept of a being like: the concept of "Rimuru" is erased, if this is that, The imaginary clone could be erased alongside Original but i dont know if her conceptual erasure work like that

I tend to Vote Yukari but i'll will wait
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You need attack that trascend space-time to harm rimuru clone. plus you must bypass this
Reactive Evolution (Rimuru evolves every day becoming stronger to the point that he completely outclasses those who were major threats to him before. In addition, he can also create new skills from information and skills that he has already gathered via his Analysis Expert & Food Chain skills, thus making him able to deal with any situation he finds himself. Even before becoming a Psuedo True Dragon, he was able to come with countermeasures to abilities he has only heard of, such as Yuuki's Avarice King Mammon),

Resurrection (Has the power and nature of a True Dragon, thus even if he dies or his conceptual self is destroyed, he will resurrect; however the resurrected Rimuru, will be an entirely different Rimuru)

Immortality (Type 1 , 3 , 4 and 8; Reincarnates when he dies and can't die as long as his main body in imaginary space exists. Can't permanently die as long as the Spirit of Light exists),

Regenerationn (Mid-Godly; Can regenerate even if he is completely destroyed along with his soul)

Attack Reflection (One of Kumara's forms is capable of reflecting attacks)

  • Retaliator: Esprit's Unique Skill that allows her to replicate all the damage she has taken onto her attackers.

    etc
yes I can't mention everything
 
GLHF22 said:
Resurrection (Has the power and nature of a True Dragon, thus even if he dies or his conceptual self is destroyed, he will resurrect; however the resurrected Rimuru, will be an entirely different Rimuru)
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He should be the same Rimuru because his memories trascend time and space
 
Well well well... i really don't act like a devil advocate but:

  • Resurrection
Interesting but If he restart a life in a completly different person, this count has defeat if he can't fight anymore

  • Regenerationn
Completly useless against her Conceptual Erasure

  • Reactive Evolution
Useless.

  • Clone stuff
Well, i guess her Conceptual erasure can erase his clone then.

  • Attack reflexio
Useless too

I really don't want to start an eternal battle, i just correct some point in this fight
 
I...really doesn't give "true" reason for Yukari, just pointed some things

if you want, you can argument my "Reason Above" but i think that my "reasoning" isn't enough
 
The Causality said:
Well well well... i really don't act like a devil advocate but:
  • Resurrection
Interesting but If he restart a life in a completly different person, this count has defeat if he can't fight anymore

  • Regenerationn
Completly useless against her Conceptual Erasure

  • Reactive Evolution
Useless.

  • Clone stuff
Well, i guess her Conceptual erasure can erase his clone then.

  • Attack reflexio
Useless too

I really don't want to start an eternal battle, i just correct some point in this fight
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  • Perfect Memory EX and Endless Regenerationn EX: Perfect Memory EX allows Shion to be able to retain her memories after death, When used in conjunction with Endless Regenerationn Ex, even if her head gets blown off, she can change into her astral body state and thus avoid death. Even if her physical body dies, she can't truly die unless her soul is destroyed, if her soul isn't destroyed she will just regenerate.
  • Reactive evolution is useless?

    See, Copy, Negates, Gap Thing isnt a problem for Rimuru Since his barrier is make uses of dimensional gap so this is not something new for him, he can copy Powers that he never heard of in a blink of eye so he can copy negates Yukari ability faster, Information Analysis, Power Mimicry and Power Nullification to a much greater extent (Yuuki saw Rimuru as being comparable if not greater than himself despite having gained virtually every ability in the series. Yuuki saw his primitive magic as his trump card and even that Rimuru was able to analyze, copy and negate in an extremely short period of time, leaving Yuuki with no choice but to send Rimuru to the end of space-time as nothing else would work on him),
no resist Info analys = to give your ability to Rimuru


Completly useless against her Conceptual Erasure

LOL you must kill His Clone to perma kill him not to mention he Resist Concept Manip


Your memory transcends Time is make it worst for Yukari Since Veldora is the same as her
 
Okay Okay:

>Reactive Evolution

Yes, according your wall of text and what the profile said, it's useless against her

>Conceptual Erasure Stuff

She kill him alongside with his clones with her conceptual erasure, not the mention that he has zero resistance to the conceptual manipulation in the profile

>Perfect Memory stuff

I don't see anythings that would stop Yukari's manipulation tho
 
The Causality said:
Okay Okay:
>Reactive Evolution

Yes, according your wall of text and what the profile said, it's useless against her

>Conceptual Erasure Stuff

She kill him alongside with his clones with her conceptual erasure, not the mention that he has zero resistance to the conceptual manipulation in the profile

>Perfect Memory stuff

I don't see anythings that would stop Yukari's manipulation tho
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Sigh, You know even that Wall of text is not completed yet due too much Ability Rimuru has

as i Said His Reatcive evolution is simply see,copy,negates its seperated because he do it Via Info anlys, power mimic, and power null

>Conceptual Erasure Stuff he have countermeasure of every ability he has including concept manip

>Perfect Memory stuff

Mind Manipulation to a much greater extent (Ciel allows Rimuru to be able to hide the Voice of the World which is sent to his mind. Said Voice of the World is the system of the world itself which governs several parallel worlds)
 
, Precognition (Can detect danger before they happen, can see the end results of his opponents attacks)

A Slash from Rimuru can Kill Yukari can she even use his ability? not to mention Rimuru Copy and Negates
 
Before leaving, it' my duty to answer this since saikou, udlmaster and RTP are not here lol

  • Precognition
Hmmm better but getting erased before can do shit

  • Conceptual Erasure
Make a CRT if you want to this get accepted because now, i will trust his profile and dont see any stuff, not the mention he is already die via a conceptual stuff

  • Perfect Memory stuff
Still dont see anything usefull against her

  • Copy and Negates stuff
Hmmm he cant copy conceptual Manipulation according to the profile (and my "knowledge") and even if he can do that, he doesn't have the time to do it

Anyway, i'll drop this, i will wait some stuff from both characters's partisant so bye
 
The Causality said:
Before leaving, it' my duty to answer this since saikou, udlmaster and RTP are not here lol
  • Precognition
Hmmm better but getting erased before can do shit

  • Conceptual Erasure
Make a CRT if you want to this get accepted because now, i will trust his profile and dont see any stuff, not the mention he is already die via a conceptual stuff

  • Perfect Memory stuff
Still dont see anything usefull against her

  • Copy and Negates stuff
Hmmm he cant copy conceptual Manipulation according to the profile (and my "knowledge") and even if he can do that, he doesn't have the time to do it

Anyway, i'll drop this, i will wait some stuff from both characters's partisant so bye
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reply to #22 okay i assume concept manip work on Rimuru
actually he has resistance or not to it is not change everything

Precognition

Precognition (Can detect danger before they happen, can see the end results of his opponents attacks)
??
He knows what will happen and you thing he cannot do anything? and again how the hell she Kill Rimuru Clone? she didnt even know if that thing exist

You know how he Copy and negates ability from someone who have no resist to info analys?

"just by a look "

  • Perfect Memory stuff
ah maybe this is my bad since i dont explatin everything
He Resurrected from Conceptual Death and then gain every memory he has, so yes maybe some of his personality is change but all of his ability,memory is remain the same and the fact that you able to kill him thats mean bloodlusted Rimuru(CIEL) will Spam Every ability he has including your own ability that he copy


  • Copy and Negates stuff
He can do it in extremly short period of Time

Yukari have no way to kill Rimuru since everything she have is copied and negated, even if Rimuru dies He Will ressurected from even conceptual destruction, and he will entirely different Rimuru mean lose? no dude Perfect Memory EX makes him remember everything and The Fight and you know what will ciel do if she know his beloved master is killed once?
 
For now I would assume that he resists everything by virtue of using ultimate skills, copies abilities and wins, but I don't cast vote yet.
 
and reminder just because she have a way to kill Rimuru it doesnt mean he wins since Rimuru have a tons of way to kill her
 
Rimuru was able to fight Yuuki , a high 3-A being with his sheer hax when he was just High 4-C himself. And Yuuki , by having "Information King-Akashic Records" , by default had every "skill" existing in the slime verse and able to use them at their maximum potential by inheriting the "power" of Veldanava. Yuuki by that point had every hax I see mentioned in Yukari's profile. The only thing he didn't have is acasuality , which is not a factor here since Rimuru has ....

My point is, Rimuru is able to casually take on an opponent with pretty much the same hax as Yukari but with with a much higher AP and overwhelmingly win the fight. What's stopping him winning this fight ? :/


Also , I saw this in Yukaris profile:

Weaknesses: Yukari is quite lazy and rarely fights seriously, and her boundary manipulation can sometimes be overpowered or considered not enough to reach certain areas instantly, such as Heaven or the Lunarian Capital. She is vulnerable to spiritual damage.

^What level of damage are we talking about here???
 
conceptual destruction does not negate mid-godly since the character can regenerate from being completely erased. It is not a valid argument and voting via this should not count.

Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate even after being completely erased from existence, including mind, body, and soul.

 
Nedge1000 said:
conceptual destruction does not negate mid-godly since the character can regenerate from being completely erased. It is not a valid argument and voting via this should not count.
Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate even after being completely erased from existence, including mind, body, and soul.

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It depends on the degree of Mid-Godly but yes, concept destruction can bypass it.
 
It depends on the degree of Mid-Godly but yes, concept destruction can bypass it.
In the worse case, Rimuru Tempest has Resurrection from Conceptual Manipulation like true-dragons and unlike them he can keep his memories with Perfect Memory EX and Endless Regenerationn EX. So, it would be negated and it is not incapacitation
 
Okay now,

Why i said Rimuru has resistance to concept manip? i already discuss this before and that fall under Power Null rather than resistance because he null it not resist it, he have counter measure of every ability he has including concept manip since in this key he already has Turn Null so he also has counter measure of it just Like Yuuki Who has every ability in the series even cannot do anything to him

and to harm Rimuru you need space-time continuum attack just because your memory transcend space-time doesnt mean your attack too, just like veldora, it doesnt matter what happened to Rimuru you fight if you didnt have space-time continuum attack you will not be able to do anything to his clone

His state of existance were never really changed between EoS and pre-EoS, only his general powerlevul does. Rather than "his last scene makes him acausal" its more of a "his last scene solidifies that hes acausal." If you think about it, its the same as his Conceptual manipulation,
 
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