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Darth Vader (Star Wars) vs Saitama (One Punch Man)
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"Round 2: Speed unequalized. No speedblitzing" --> uhhhhhh, that's not how it works really.
Round 1: Saitama has the resistance to survive organ crush, force choke and I already am super doubtful about the combat application of sub-atomic manipulation in Star Wars. However, Darth Vader is scaled with Mindhax based on Darth Sidious and Darth Sidious mindhaxed at least millions of people at the same time. Tatsumaki being a psychic and useless against Saitama or not, there is nothing in OPM to scale to that so Vader should win based on those mindhax.
Round 1: Saitama has the resistance to survive organ crush, force choke and I already am super doubtful about the combat application of sub-atomic manipulation in Star Wars. However, Darth Vader is scaled with Mindhax based on Darth Sidious and Darth Sidious mindhaxed at least millions of people at the same time. Tatsumaki being a psychic and useless against Saitama or not, there is nothing in OPM to scale to that so Vader should win based on those mindhax.
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Actually on the webcomic the only reason Saitama was able to endure tatsumaki's psychic influence was because he had a huge amount of willpower,she was even able to slightly stop garou's movement for a bit,and that coming from a guy who wouldn't stop fighting even when near death.So,given saitama is supposed to have a willpower greater than his he should be able to endure Vader's mindhax pretty well
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Giving it to Vader due to his greater speed as it stands now, and as Aparajita said, Vader = 8/10 Sidious and Sidious can easily mindrape billions to trillions of people. I seriously doubt Saitama's mental resistance is THAT high.
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due to no shown resistance towards telepathy i give this to vader in both rounds,
unfotunatly vader only needs reaction-speed in orer to use the force, which means that saitama would need to be lightspeed+, unfortunatly we didnt see it currently
so, my votw goes to vader ^_^
unfotunatly vader only needs reaction-speed in orer to use the force, which means that saitama would need to be lightspeed+, unfortunatly we didnt see it currently
so, my votw goes to vader ^_^
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This is so redicolous, saitama has showned by his feat a speed of 200 000 km jumping from moon to earth in seconds, Darth vader can't keep with his speed, also saitama has vaporized a muntain with his punch just hitting the air and he was just joking, it wasn't a real fight.
laser blade can cut metal by pressure and hight heat, now the pressure isn't a problem for saitama since he has showned to tank hit with the same pressure to send him on the moon, without take any wound (he has naver took a wound in all the series) so a normal sword can't damage him, but there is the problem of the laser! However first saitama was hitted from Boros laser beam (that was at the temperature of plasma) form genos incenerite that devasted a city area, he hitted a meteorite and also he is able to hit with the force and speed that even his inertial mass in the atmosphere would generate an immense heat wave, all this has never wound him, so i don't know if a laser blade could wound him but probably it couldn't since he surely has tanked temperature highter than 10 000 C┬░ with no efforts.
The only thing Darth Vader has against saitama is mind control but since saitama as a great will power it hardly would work for more than one minute.
So in the end Darth Vader just has to start with mind control and if it works then he will try to cut him. While if saitama is serius, he will just hit the air and vaporize him in a second.
laser blade can cut metal by pressure and hight heat, now the pressure isn't a problem for saitama since he has showned to tank hit with the same pressure to send him on the moon, without take any wound (he has naver took a wound in all the series) so a normal sword can't damage him, but there is the problem of the laser! However first saitama was hitted from Boros laser beam (that was at the temperature of plasma) form genos incenerite that devasted a city area, he hitted a meteorite and also he is able to hit with the force and speed that even his inertial mass in the atmosphere would generate an immense heat wave, all this has never wound him, so i don't know if a laser blade could wound him but probably it couldn't since he surely has tanked temperature highter than 10 000 C┬░ with no efforts.
The only thing Darth Vader has against saitama is mind control but since saitama as a great will power it hardly would work for more than one minute.
So in the end Darth Vader just has to start with mind control and if it works then he will try to cut him. While if saitama is serius, he will just hit the air and vaporize him in a second.
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Vader's reaction speed, which is all it requires to use the force, is much higher.ChoseUsername said:
Feats, not speculation. The "lol it's Saitama" doesn't matter.
Tornado's TP is nothing compared to TP in the SWverse.
Vader can maniuplation holocroms, which is subatomic matter maniuplation, Saitama has no defense against that.
Or... TK in general.
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It's physical, from wikipedia :"Force choke was used to squeeze a victim's throat with the Force" and the force is energy and willpower that can hurt physically the body like telekinesis.Drellix said:
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I'm going to list all of Vaders abilities.
Force Barrier: Both an offensive and defensive Force power that creates a barrier or wall of Force energy around the intended target, be it self, friend, or foe. Depending on the strength of the individual, the barrier could only withstand a few attacks before collapsing. Could shield himself from Starkiller's explosion that was visible from outside the Deathstar even in his damaged state from being hit with TK blasts, machinery and their explosions.
-Force Healing: Accelerates the body's natural healing process at a rapid pace. Master practitioners of the art can even heal themselves from fatal injuries in a short span of time (like being cooked alive, punctured lungs, etc).
-Dun Moch: A Sith technique, it involves probing the mind of the opponent then using the info for psychological warfare to erode their will. Experienced practicioners can work on experienced force users who are capable of blocking their mind out from probes.
-Force Choke: Possibly his most used technique, he applies his telekinesis to crush an opponent's throat (or other body parts if he chooses). Usually used to kill insubordinate underlings. Interestingly it only requires line of sight to use, as Vader displayed over several kilometers the ability to Force Choke Imperial Officers such as Admiral Ozzel.
-Force Scream: An enraged scream that causes devastation to any that were unfortunate enough to be in close proximity who were'nt strong enough to survive, he used this in episode III despite the weakened state he was in after the fight and pain of surgery to shake the room and crush machinery in it. He threatened to bring down the Jedi Temple while choking out an Inquisitor(dark sider) till he stopped. He also shook a building to it's foundation while in a Hangar with Typho. All of this in his early years(during ROTS era months after the events on Mustafar).
-Force Shield: Could shield himself from Starkiller's explosion that was visible from outside the Deathstar even in his damaged state from being hit with TK blasts, machinery and their explosions.
-Kinetite: Described as molding "Force energized lightning" into a sphere of restrained kinetic energy which can be thrown at an enemy. Instead of burning or electrocuting it's target like most forms of Force lightning, it acts as a solid projectile.
-Lightsaber Combat: Vader is a master of all forms of lightsaber combat, specializing in the Shie and Djem Solightsaber styles, and is also proficient with the Shii-Cho, Makashi, Soresu, Ataru, Niman, and Juyo forms. Can also use his saber as a boomerang to decapitate opponents.
-Memory Manipulation: He can rip into the mind of his opponent to gain info like he did in episode VI in his final duel with his son or learn new things such as a new language(called drain knowledge). He can project images of his opponent's fears, torturing them to a point they're left in a vegetative state for a while. He can access the memories of people to see, hear and feel what they did(including the force signature felt) to better understand things as shown with the force user Tesla. Can scramble the minds of non force sensitives at least since even Darth Maul was trained to do that.
-Mental Domination/Defense: Can bend the will of opponents to do his biding, has even killed a Troydarian(beings famous for their ability to resist force suggestions) by inflecting mental pain on it.Can create mental blocks like experienced force users to prevent mind from being probed or scrambled and can also trace telepathic trails left behind by telepaths who may have planted something in his mind, a high level telepath however can leave no trails.
-Pyrokinesis: Anakin Skywalker, at a young age, accidentally used this power to burn an opponent from the inside of their body. Vader has greater mastery of the force than him.
-Telekinesis: Vader can easily rip off large chunks of machinery or other nearby objects weighing multiple tons and fling them at his opponents at high speeds, pummeling them into submission. Can alter the speed, direction and number to a point a veteran Jedi Master was overwhelmed by this. Shattered Aluminis Densecris as warm up which during the time of New Hope(episode IV) was considered unbreakble by science. Can stop the heart of people by attacking them internally.Can levitate himself such as over holes. Can move small spacecrafts.
-Telepathy: Can easily manipulate others mentally with the Force to trick, deceive, maim or even kill outright. Can also use this power externally or internally when it comes to illusion creation, manifestation and manipulation.
-Tutaminis: Through the Force, Vader can draw potentially harmful energy into his body and diffuse it or channel it away completely. He most likely employed this ability when Starkiller attacked him for an extended period of time with Force Lightning.
Force Barrier: Both an offensive and defensive Force power that creates a barrier or wall of Force energy around the intended target, be it self, friend, or foe. Depending on the strength of the individual, the barrier could only withstand a few attacks before collapsing. Could shield himself from Starkiller's explosion that was visible from outside the Deathstar even in his damaged state from being hit with TK blasts, machinery and their explosions.
-Force Healing: Accelerates the body's natural healing process at a rapid pace. Master practitioners of the art can even heal themselves from fatal injuries in a short span of time (like being cooked alive, punctured lungs, etc).
-Dun Moch: A Sith technique, it involves probing the mind of the opponent then using the info for psychological warfare to erode their will. Experienced practicioners can work on experienced force users who are capable of blocking their mind out from probes.
-Force Choke: Possibly his most used technique, he applies his telekinesis to crush an opponent's throat (or other body parts if he chooses). Usually used to kill insubordinate underlings. Interestingly it only requires line of sight to use, as Vader displayed over several kilometers the ability to Force Choke Imperial Officers such as Admiral Ozzel.
-Force Scream: An enraged scream that causes devastation to any that were unfortunate enough to be in close proximity who were'nt strong enough to survive, he used this in episode III despite the weakened state he was in after the fight and pain of surgery to shake the room and crush machinery in it. He threatened to bring down the Jedi Temple while choking out an Inquisitor(dark sider) till he stopped. He also shook a building to it's foundation while in a Hangar with Typho. All of this in his early years(during ROTS era months after the events on Mustafar).
-Force Shield: Could shield himself from Starkiller's explosion that was visible from outside the Deathstar even in his damaged state from being hit with TK blasts, machinery and their explosions.
-Kinetite: Described as molding "Force energized lightning" into a sphere of restrained kinetic energy which can be thrown at an enemy. Instead of burning or electrocuting it's target like most forms of Force lightning, it acts as a solid projectile.
-Lightsaber Combat: Vader is a master of all forms of lightsaber combat, specializing in the Shie and Djem Solightsaber styles, and is also proficient with the Shii-Cho, Makashi, Soresu, Ataru, Niman, and Juyo forms. Can also use his saber as a boomerang to decapitate opponents.
-Memory Manipulation: He can rip into the mind of his opponent to gain info like he did in episode VI in his final duel with his son or learn new things such as a new language(called drain knowledge). He can project images of his opponent's fears, torturing them to a point they're left in a vegetative state for a while. He can access the memories of people to see, hear and feel what they did(including the force signature felt) to better understand things as shown with the force user Tesla. Can scramble the minds of non force sensitives at least since even Darth Maul was trained to do that.
-Mental Domination/Defense: Can bend the will of opponents to do his biding, has even killed a Troydarian(beings famous for their ability to resist force suggestions) by inflecting mental pain on it.Can create mental blocks like experienced force users to prevent mind from being probed or scrambled and can also trace telepathic trails left behind by telepaths who may have planted something in his mind, a high level telepath however can leave no trails.
-Pyrokinesis: Anakin Skywalker, at a young age, accidentally used this power to burn an opponent from the inside of their body. Vader has greater mastery of the force than him.
-Telekinesis: Vader can easily rip off large chunks of machinery or other nearby objects weighing multiple tons and fling them at his opponents at high speeds, pummeling them into submission. Can alter the speed, direction and number to a point a veteran Jedi Master was overwhelmed by this. Shattered Aluminis Densecris as warm up which during the time of New Hope(episode IV) was considered unbreakble by science. Can stop the heart of people by attacking them internally.Can levitate himself such as over holes. Can move small spacecrafts.
-Telepathy: Can easily manipulate others mentally with the Force to trick, deceive, maim or even kill outright. Can also use this power externally or internally when it comes to illusion creation, manifestation and manipulation.
-Tutaminis: Through the Force, Vader can draw potentially harmful energy into his body and diffuse it or channel it away completely. He most likely employed this ability when Starkiller attacked him for an extended period of time with Force Lightning.
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Drellix wrote
-Force Choke: Possibly his most used technique, he applies his telekinesis to crush an opponent's throat (or other body parts if he chooses). Usually used to kill insubordinate underlings. Interestingly it only requires line of sight to use, as Vader displayed over several kilometers the ability to Force Choke Imperial Officers such as Admiral Ozzel.
Thanks, it is telekinesis so it's physical. In other words it can't hurt saitama.
-Force Choke: Possibly his most used technique, he applies his telekinesis to crush an opponent's throat (or other body parts if he chooses). Usually used to kill insubordinate underlings. Interestingly it only requires line of sight to use, as Vader displayed over several kilometers the ability to Force Choke Imperial Officers such as Admiral Ozzel.
Thanks, it is telekinesis so it's physical. In other words it can't hurt saitama.
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Drellix said:
Saitama wasn't killed by a meter, how a fire can burn him? he tanked without effort temperature approximativly above 10 000 C┬░ , he was never wounded neither form the laser beam of boros neither from incenerite of genos that was a city area attack. So how can that kill him, you don't understand that he tanked planet or small planet buster without being wounded, so ANY physic attack of Darth Vader force is not gonna hurt him. I said before the only think Darth Vader has is mind control.
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Drellix said:
I know this but it don't change anything fire always burn! if it didn't affected him why form the inside it should be different? and also when the temperature go so hight like 1000 C┬░ a normal human body istant vaporize to contact also from the inside because you know! heat not only affect the skin but all the body.
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Vader is faster? Man have you ever seen OPM? He travel from moon to earth in second which is more less 200 000 km/h, he reacted to speed of sound for reflex and has showned the power to vaporize a muntain with a simple punch!Drellix said:
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Drellix said:
yeah with his legs? hahaha
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His combat speed is relativistic. Not his travel speed.Drellix said:
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that was saitamas dream of a powerful enemy XDDrellix said:
@chose username
that doesnt matter, vader only needs reaction speed because force is omnipresent, that means his attacks are only limited to the speed of his mind which is lightspeed and therefore far above anything saitama showed so far :I
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Vader brain can react to light speed, but if is body is slow he can't doge an attack powerfull and so fast of saitama
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^but he doesnt need to dodge since saitama would die the moment the battle begins
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......... mans I am tired, someone can explain that if you tank a meteor without being demaged you can't be hurt with telekinetic?
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? like someone said, vade could also simply close saitamas wind pipe and kill him with that, and others also mentioned atomic-scale manipulation which can overcome durability, and there is also the "mind-control" argument :IChoseUsername said:
saitama simply lacks the needed feats in order to win (for now...)
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Darth Vader wins because his mind haxs are crazy
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https://gyazo.com/22a829351667dc19484e6a4596f6193d omg HE DDIDNT TAKE DAMAGE not a bit but darthe vader wins but saitama give him a hard fight but if the serie continue he is going to definitely win
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